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It wasn't the brakes that were the problem 
You can make improvements to the bite, feel, feedback, fade resistance, and outright power of the brakes, but they still won't stop any faster than the tyres will let you
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Trust me the standard Dtub/1.4 setup won't even lock the wheels and that's on braided hoses.
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Ive locked them up plenty of times without braided lines
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Connor Wrote:Ive locked them up plenty of times without braided lines
Your a better man than me. I TRIED locking the set on my SLDT and just couldnt manage it, only ever tested on dry tarmac.
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Flynn Wrote:Trust me the standard Dtub/1.4 setup won't even lock the wheels and that's on braided hoses.
Trust me, a 1.4 setup in good condition will quite happily lock the wheels.
The problem is it sets on fire after a few stops.
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my dt brakes aint that bad 
though, thats probably because they've like only recently been sorted out with new disks n that.
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Flynn Wrote:Trust me the standard Dtub/1.4 setup won't even lock the wheels and that's on braided hoses. Might wanna bleed them then, should lock up easily...
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Rippthrough Wrote:Flynn Wrote:Trust me the standard Dtub/1.4 setup won't even lock the wheels and that's on braided hoses.
Trust me, a 1.4 setup in good condition will quite happily lock the wheels.
The problem is it sets on fire after a few stops.
THE_Liam Wrote:Flynn Wrote:Trust me the standard Dtub/1.4 setup won't even lock the wheels and that's on braided hoses. Might wanna bleed them then, should lock up easily...
That's interesting. All fresh brake fluid on mine, pedal is rock hard with the servo off. New discs and pads. I've never got any real positive feedback from them. It almost seems as if the master cylinder can't exert enough pressure to really make use of them.
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If you cant lock the wheels up on 247mm's then either you have a problem, or your car has a problem.
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Sounds more like the organic bit behind the steering wheel
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Seat>Pedal Interface Error.
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Flynn Wrote:Rippthrough Wrote:Flynn Wrote:Trust me the standard Dtub/1.4 setup won't even lock the wheels and that's on braided hoses.
Trust me, a 1.4 setup in good condition will quite happily lock the wheels.
The problem is it sets on fire after a few stops.
THE_Liam Wrote:Flynn Wrote:Trust me the standard Dtub/1.4 setup won't even lock the wheels and that's on braided hoses. Might wanna bleed them then, should lock up easily...
That's interesting. All fresh brake fluid on mine, pedal is rock hard with the servo off. New discs and pads. I've never got any real positive feedback from them. It almost seems as if the master cylinder can't exert enough pressure to really make use of them. That's possible. The seals on the master cylinder can wear, or the cylinder can even split...
Point is, if you can't even lock the wheels under hard braking there's a serious problem. Get it to a proper mechanic pronto!
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Cool I was hoping to upgrade to a GTI master cylinder anyway! Passes MOT fine though, so the brakes must be good enough.
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GTi master cylinder will give you less braking force, not more.
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For real? Damn. They are supposed to give less travel though, which is what I don't like about the smaller master cylinder, you always feel like you are over extending your foot when you press the brakes, especially if you've got long arms. The problem is the small master cylinder leaves you with a far bit of travel in the pedal before it actually applies the brakes which is annoying when you want a nice responsive feel when you press the pedal.
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Small master cylinder should apply the brakes just as early, just have more travel through the braking range.
If yours has slack before it engages then you have a problem either in the pedal box/servo or the servo rod isn't adjusted properly (or somethings pushing fluid back through the system).
Probably why your brakes are so dire.
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Dan! Wrote:If you cant lock the wheels up on 247mm's then either you have a problem, or your car has a problem.
Ill go back to my SLDT, the 247mms were shocking. Swapped to 266mm with halfrauds discs, pads and dot 4 fluid and they were amazing (comparitively)
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Rofl, DT brakes are not brilliant I admit. But there not "shocking" on mine
Stops me fairly quickly and without the abs, would lock up easily.
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