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		28-09-2013, 11:19 PM 
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		I'm looking at getting a Bosch set up for the XUD, what do I need to do this from a Lucas and is there anything I need to ask/check as I've never bought one before
	 
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		You want one that's been sat full of dieselFull set of Bosch injectors
 Bosch lines
 New leak of pipes
 
 While doing it may as well do timing belt an that.
 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		 (28-09-2013, 11:24 PM)Tyronnster Wrote:  You want one that's been sat full of dieselFull set of Bosch injectors
 Bosch lines
 New leak of pipes
 
 While doing it may as well do timing belt an that.
 
Ok, so is the set up you mentioned on another thread full of fuel?
	 
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		The fuel inlet for the bosch would be handy aswell, piece of tube that goes round the back of the pump that you clamp your hose onto.
	 
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		Does a Bosch pump actually give more proven mpg or is it an urban myth?
	 
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		 (29-09-2013, 12:12 AM)devils_fuel Wrote:  Does a Bosch pump actually give more proven mpg or is it an urban myth? 
I noticed mine was quieter with the bosch than lucus on my old d turbo, Not sure about mpg tho cos soon as i put it on, i put veg oil in    but you will be saving money on veg oil if your gonna run it    
 
 
 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Don't forget the woodruff key
	 
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		 (29-09-2013, 06:55 AM)Chris_90 Wrote:  I noticed mine was quieter with the bosch than lucus on my old d turbo 
Is it??
 
  (29-09-2013, 08:46 AM)adamm306 Wrote:  Don't forget the woodruff key 
Guess I need a pulley as well?
 
God this kit is going to cost dollar...
 
So how much should I budget for the kit?
	 
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		Noisy as f*ck if you use lucas injectors, I paid about 100 for my first setup and 80 total for one i bought other day! Shouldnt be to bad!
	 
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		 (29-09-2013, 10:07 AM)devils_fuel Wrote:  Guess I need a pulley as well? 
yeah
	 
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		It isn't expensive really £30 for Bosch pump lines and injectors about £10 (looms scrap yard prices) cambelt Kit was £40 and And about £15 for water pump. Then bit of fuel pipe £5 max all you need for £100, if your planning on running veg oil you will soon make your money back depending on how many miles you do
	 
 
 
 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Blimey, I never find setups that cheap when I have the cash lol
	 
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		 (29-09-2013, 10:39 PM)devils_fuel Wrote:  Blimey, I never find setups that cheap when I have the cash lol 
You see them pop up on here for under £90 fairly regularly.
 
I'm sure we'll find you one.
 
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		 (01-10-2013, 08:18 PM)silverzx Wrote:   (29-09-2013, 10:39 PM)devils_fuel Wrote:  Blimey, I never find setups that cheap when I have the cash lol You see them pop up on here for under £90 fairly regularly.
 
 I'm sure we'll find you one.
 
 At last! How were you persuaded?
 
What a complete kit inc everything to replace it, pulley and woodruff key etc??
 
Wanna run it on veg due to fuel prices or maybe scrap it lol
	 
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		 (01-10-2013, 08:26 PM)devils_fuel Wrote:   (01-10-2013, 08:18 PM)silverzx Wrote:   (29-09-2013, 10:39 PM)devils_fuel Wrote:  Blimey, I never find setups that cheap when I have the cash lol You see them pop up on here for under £90 fairly regularly.
 
 I'm sure we'll find you one.
 
 At last! How were you persuaded?
 What a complete kit inc everything to replace it, pulley and woodruff key etc??
 
 Wanna run it on veg due to fuel prices or maybe scrap it lol
 
Yeah, again you might find one in a scrappy even cheaper!
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		If you see one cheap like the budgie...grab it   
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		Theres an 11mm for £100 on here. 
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		Ha ha but that's just for the pump plus it would drown my car in fuel, only got a kk..I think
	 
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		 (01-10-2013, 09:36 PM)devils_fuel Wrote:  Ha ha but that's just for the pump plus it would drown my car in fuel, only got a kk..I think 
Thats kind of the point...!    
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		If you can get the 11mm I would go for it. Thats my next step.
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		 (01-10-2013, 09:50 PM)silverzx Wrote:   (01-10-2013, 09:36 PM)devils_fuel Wrote:  Ha ha but that's just for the pump plus it would drown my car in fuel, only got a kk..I think Thats kind of the point...!
  
Ha ha I can't be bothered with fast cars etc, if I wanted a fast car I'd get a Perv turbo, just happy chugging along in my derv thinking about the money I'm saving...so opposite of Jeremy Clarkson    
Hence I want it to run veg    
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		 (01-10-2013, 09:36 PM)devils_fuel Wrote:  Ha ha but that's just for the pump plus it would drown my car in fuel, only got a kk..I think 
Nah it wouldn't. VW's have used 10mm pumps on their NADs, no reason why an 11mm would drown a DT. You don't HAVE to run full fuelling on them. Yeah you'll get more off boost smoke but control that with your right foot. Simple.
 
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		I'm not sure about the MPG thing, but every XUD I've had with a Bosch has been slightly better on fuel, although that's always been veg oil. Maybe it's veg oil that gives better MPG?
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		No veg gives worse fuel economy, but because its so much cheaper to buy, it gives you better pence per litre
	 
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		 (02-10-2013, 08:09 AM)Connor Wrote:  No veg gives worse fuel economy, but because its so much cheaper to buy, it gives you better pence per litre 
Thing is I've measured it mate, 450 to a tank on derv, 470-480 on veg? A few tanks have given that result with pretty much the same driving...
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		depends hugely on what diesel used and what type of veg used.
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Shell Fuelsave vs KTC Cooking oil (soya crap) with 10% Shell Fuelsave. Loads more power on derv though, wish Costco still did rapeseed.
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Definately a power difference in the higher RPM's.
 If you had a more suitable spooler like a VNT or GT then I can't imagine there being an awful lot of difference?
 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		 (02-10-2013, 10:17 AM)silverzx Wrote:  Definately a power difference in the higher RPM's.
 If you had a more suitable spooler like a VNT or GT then I can't imagine there being an awful lot of difference?
 
There is, complete lack of top end, spools quickly but completely flattens off from 3.5k+
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		 (02-10-2013, 11:37 AM)cwspellowe Wrote:   (02-10-2013, 10:17 AM)silverzx Wrote:  Definately a power difference in the higher RPM's.
 If you had a more suitable spooler like a VNT or GT then I can't imagine there being an awful lot of difference?
 There is, complete lack of top end, spools quickly but completely flattens off from 3.5k+
 
This, that's exactly my problem. A little derv improves it, but it's still not there...
	 
		
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