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		its very tidy chris    
should keep the swallows in gunmetal grey and slam the 'dan on the bump-stops...
	
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		 (27-11-2012, 04:46 PM)jammapic Wrote:  Looks good Dum! Always wanted to see a 2.1 pushed!
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 Cheers mate, wont be pushing it for a while as once its got this lump in and running its gonna need lowered and better wheels.
  (27-11-2012, 04:58 PM)ginge191 Wrote:  Looks alright this! Effort indeed! Be nice to see what this becomes as a final piece  Cheers mate, Im well excited for my first drive.
  (27-11-2012, 11:09 PM)devils_fuel Wrote:  its very tidy chris  
 should keep the swallows in gunmetal grey and slam the 'dan on the bump-stops...
 Cheers mate but f*ck keeping the swallows, it looks irish enough as it is. I need wheels thatll happily take 205 width tyres as the 185s on swallows just cant cope.
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		You still got the gold pro race 1.2 wheels off your gti6? Would look good on this
	 
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		 (28-11-2012, 12:15 PM)ozonehostile Wrote:  You still got the gold pro race 1.2 wheels off your gti6? Would look good on this 
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		Pretty much the only car related pic of the weekend that I got lol  
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		So DumDum - how does it feel to have reversing sensors now?     
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		 (03-12-2012, 04:41 PM)4WayDiablo Wrote:  Pretty much the only car related pic of the weekend that I got lol 
Cheers mate, that was the "OMG the coolant hasnt run away again, quick put the cap back on before it all jumps out" moment.
  (03-12-2012, 06:02 PM)ash240970 Wrote:  So DumDum - how does it feel to have reversing sensors now?    Not fitting them. Going to give them to the next fat bird i find and dislike.
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Your official photographer has a few cheeky pics for you. 
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		this looks awsome mate!!!!
	 
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		It is awesome, spins the wheels when it comes on boost in 1st and 2nd and - aside from the "slight" rubbing issue lol - it's a pretty sorted install. Well impressed as ever matey, still think you should relocate the turbo. In fact, while you're there...
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		I can also vouch for the awesomeosity of it, needs moar tyre though...
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		 (28-11-2012, 12:05 PM)Dum-Dum Wrote:   (27-11-2012, 11:09 PM)devils_fuel Wrote:  its very tidy chris Cheers mate but f*ck keeping the swallows, it looks irish enough as it is. I need wheels thatll happily take 205 width tyres as the 185s on swallows just cant cope. 
 should keep the swallows in gunmetal grey and slam the 'dan on the bump-stops...
 
Challengers or vortex's or maybe SP's again?
	 
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		Having being out in this, this afternoon I would say its a solid 160hp... Goes as well as my gti, for sure - if not better. 
 Steering is scary though!
 
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		Would be good to see how it goes against my 205 Chris   
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		Was wandering about this earlier today, does the 2.1 12v sound any different to the xud9? is the exhaust note deeper or anything like that?
	 
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		Sounds smoother and less old school...
	 
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		 (04-12-2012, 10:29 PM)jammapic Wrote:  Sounds smoother and less old school... 
that makes sense i guess since the pug 605/ big citroens were full on luxury cars in their day 
does it still have that growl of the xud9?
	 
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		Yes. It still growls and roars and goes like stink.
	 
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		Nice phone call last night Dum    sorry to dissapoint though    although never put the blaze on a dyno but id say it was only running approx 140bhp with a T2
 
Whats the revs on this thing? compared to a 1.9? does red start at same point etc what you pushed it to so far? im just going to 5500-5700 ATM
	
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		 (04-12-2012, 07:41 PM)devils_fuel Wrote:  Challengers or vortex's or maybe SP's again? None of the above.
  (04-12-2012, 09:22 PM)jammapic Wrote:  Having being out in this, this afternoon I would say its a solid 160hp... Goes as well as my gti, for sure - if not better. 
 Steering is scary though!
 Cheers mate. Was nice to see that it surprised you although more with its utterly calm, untroubled power delivery than its flat out speed, after all its on a maxed 9mm pump it cant really be much more than 150bhp)
 
Thanks for the advice on 9mm mods too. I spent 2 hours on ebay last night lol.
  (04-12-2012, 09:30 PM)strictly_derv Wrote:  Would be good to see how it goes against my 205 Chris  It would, I think youll be faster, less weight, more power in your car but this is so refined and such a torque monster.
  (04-12-2012, 09:37 PM)ozonehostile Wrote:  Was wandering about this earlier today, does the 2.1 12v sound any different to the xud9? is the exhaust note deeper or anything like that?  Yeah its deeper and smoother sounding but as below still growls and roars when you really wind it up
  (04-12-2012, 10:41 PM)Jonny81191 Wrote:  Yes. It still growls and roars and goes like stink.  (04-12-2012, 11:26 PM)Piggy1987 Wrote:  Dyno dyno dyno dyno!!!  LOL wish I had the money mate. TBH theres been so many people out in it that you can pretty much guarantee that itll be 145-160bhp
  (05-12-2012, 08:56 AM)CJ_Derv Wrote:  Nice phone call last night Dum  sorry to dissapoint though  although never put the blaze on a dyno but id say it was only running approx 140bhp with a T2 
 Whats the revs on this thing? compared to a 1.9? does red start at same point etc what you pushed it to so far? im just going to 5500-5700 ATM
  Ive not had it past 4500 really as its on nearly pure veg and starts holding back because of it, im also starting to not believe that it is actually gov modded either.
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Maybe your pumps not in the best of conditions? Surely it shouldn't be completely maxed out at that kind of power?
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Yeah thats the reason ive stopped running Veg purely for performance reasons    i do get the odd hesitation around 4k so may check filter and pickup stopped running it down to reserve for a good while now after dragging shit through.
 
JP has helped me loads in the past and no doubt soon when i come to building pump and get stuck haha
 
I wouldnt say its maxed out yet, how many times have you had to knock throttle arm back? ive only done this the once but got it just under revs hanging, on one of dans pins, need to look into LDA mods next and look at my throttle cable setup as doesnt seem to jump on full like it used to.
 
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		IMO it sounds a lot lazier then the 1.9.
 Still sounds 'meaty' but not as 'raspy' so to speak..
 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		To check if the pumps gov modded, move the throttle arm from min to max travel with your hand and it should get slightly stiffer in the last ~1cm of travel. If it's the same all the way from min to max then it's probably standard.
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		 (05-12-2012, 11:14 AM)Ben Wrote:  Maybe your pumps not in the best of conditions? Surely it shouldn't be completely maxed out at that kind of power? Nah its in an alright condition, its certainly in no worse condition than the one on the donkey and that was also maxed in the same way.
 
When I say maxed I mean as far as itll go just adjusting the screws on the outside and still idle without taking the insides apart. I know the theoretical limit of these according to Bosch is about 230bhp
  (05-12-2012, 11:30 AM)CJ_Derv Wrote:  Yeah thats the reason ive stopped running Veg purely for performance reasons  i do get the odd hesitation around 4k so may check filter and pickup stopped running it down to reserve for a good while now after dragging shit through. 
 JP has helped me loads in the past and no doubt soon when i come to building pump and get stuck haha
 
 I wouldnt say its maxed out yet, how many times have you had to knock throttle arm back? ive only done this the once but got it just under revs hanging, on one of dans pins, need to look into LDA mods next and look at my throttle cable setup as doesnt seem to jump on full like it used to.
 
 Looking forward to seeing how this mother runs on derv with an 11mm though
  Brand new filter with the engine mate. Dont think theres much shit in the tank TBH its just a little cold for how much veg im running.
 
Ive not spun the arm yet im gonna grind the pump body where it hits first to get more neg travel that way then Im gonna start playing with the internals for more travel on bits and bobs.
  (05-12-2012, 12:27 PM)Dan! Wrote:  To check if the pumps gov modded, move the throttle arm from min to max travel with your hand and it should get slightly stiffer in the last ~1cm of travel. If it's the same all the way from min to max then it's probably standard. Cool, Ill check that mate.
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		It Should be gov modded, I was assured it was, but you never know..
	 
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		Not interesting really as theres no pics
 Been tuning my pump today
 Bent the throttle arm today and now have more negative travel, 2 notches on the throttle cable more, think Im gonna grind a bit off the pump too though
 Got my cold start cable connected and adjusted.
 Idle is now 1250rpm when cold and 900rpm when warm
 Haven't added any more max fuel as im quite liking my low idle for now.
 
 All this has led to me blowing my first boost hose but dont get too excited, it was cos id forgot to re attach the jubilee clip
 
 
 Oh and the oil "leak" i was moaning about isnt really an oil leak. Its blowing out the bottom block breather hose ever so slightly and then mixing with coolant thats blowing out one of the joints on the water manifold (assume it needs a new o ring)
 
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