Dum-Dums Bianca GTi6

[Jonny81191]

I have a glovebox

[Dum-Dum]

Iam getting engine mounts done soon bud, so I'll have a spare if you want to borrow?

Yes please. I guess ill be some time at the end of the month.

I have a glovebox

How much posted?

[Jonny81191]

I have a glovebox

How much posted?

£15?

[Dum-Dum]

Can you wait till the 20th for payment cos im absolutely skint ATM

[Jonny81191]

yeah, I'll be in Frogland until the start of September though.

[Matt]

going by your weights ive shed 70.4kg need to attack the shit on the front now

[Ed Doe]

just thought I'd let you all know I've started stripping too.

I weigh 69kg (giggidy) and only drive in a manthong and raceshoes made from a fine weave of carbo-unobtanium glued together with rallye-owners' tears.

that and I largely spend my weekends actually driving mine rather than ruining the weight distribution....
So when the time comes I shall enjoy the relative cool and quiet of the inside of my car whilst dusting you two off

[Matt]

ruining weight distrubuiton you say.....


drive yours you say......


ed what happens when it rains? dont you take the nad instead

[Niall]

Book weight for the gti6 with a tank full is 1115kg. How have you come up with 1200?

[Ed Doe]

the nad is the practice weapon, the 6 is the Duelling weapon

[Jonny b]

I weigh 69kg (giggidy) and only drive in a manthong and raceshoes

and your gay as f*ck driving gloves lol

[Ed Doe]

I weigh 69kg (giggidy) and only drive in a manthong and raceshoes

and your gay as f*ck driving gloves lol

Shit, busted!

[Jonny b]

Ha ha

[vlj]

After working this out and realising by stripping my car (again) I'll only lose 54kg.. I ask myself - what is the point? It's like having myself sitting in the passenger seat... all the time.
Really in two minds as to whether it's worth it for me to strip it or not!

[Jonny b]

The difference in having a passenger or not Is night and day though bud, especially on these low torque high rev engines

[Matt]

id say its worth it, mine certainly feels different, what would you be stripping to only get 54kg?

[vlj]

id say its worth it, mine certainly feels different, what would you be stripping to only get 54kg?

Rear wiper and arm = 457g
Rear wiper motor = 1553g
most of the rear washer hose = 243g
Cover under glove box = 365g
GTi6 boot trim (3 peices) = 313g
Rear light covers = 161g
Wheel wrench = 441g
Jack and holder = 2513g
CD changer and brackets = 2137g
CD changer cable = 316g
Spare wheel carrier and hanger bolt = 1694g
Rear headrests = 1604g
O/S lower rear seat = 3280g
N/S lower rear seat = 4260g
O/S upper rear seat = 4800g
N/S upper rear seat = 6150g
All rear seat belts and all seat bolts = 2790g
Front boot edge metal trim / seat mount = 940g
Rear edge roof lining trim = 120g
Boot lid wiper motor cover = 390g
Boot interior light = 10g
Rear foot well mats = 730g
O/S C pillar trim = 660g
N/S C pillar trim = 640g
Interior N/S 3/4 panel trim = 1860g
Interior O/S 3/4 panel trim = 1860g
Interior O/S 3/4 panel trim pockets = 260g
N/S 3/4 panel sound deadening = 360g
O/S 3/4 panel sound deadening = 450g
Boot side carpets = 160g
Boot floor carpet = 900g
Boot sound deadening = 4540g
Under rear seat sound deadening = 290g
Rear seat base front clips = 320g
Rear foot well carpet = 6500g
All trim screws (the black torx ones from the above) = 90g
Random bits of plastic/foam from above = 80g
B pillar trims = 440g
Bonnet lining and clips 1080g
Fog difference = 897g


Not including air con removal or de cat yet though.

[Ruan]

SERIOUSLY did you weigh the trim screws?

[sam]

i have a non air con set of the rallye engine i broke a while ago if your interested? looks good though chap

[Dum-Dum]

I weigh 69kg (giggidy) and only drive in a manthong and raceshoes made from a fine weave of carbo-unobtanium glued together with rallye-owners' tears.

Yeah but the weight of your ego must add at least 200kg plus the weight of those massive heavy ph4 headrests.

Book weight for the gti6 with a tank full is 1115kg. How have you come up with 1200?

Mine was 1200kg, I know this cos I weighed it. Dont know where id got 1240kg for the standard weight from, Ive checked and its 1215kg, the Rallye is 1163kg giving the 52kg difference.

id say its worth it, mine certainly feels different, what would you be stripping to only get 54kg?

Mine feels faster, Im sure thats partly due to the noise being much louder and more porn.

SERIOUSLY did you weigh the trim screws?

Yep!

i have a non air con set of the rallye engine i broke a while ago if your interested? looks good though chap

Maybe, how much you looking for the 2 tensioners.

[Poodle]

SERIOUSLY did you weigh the trim screws?

Yep!

Bollocks, i was the sucker stood there with the scales. :p Gotta say though, was quite interesting to see what all the different bits weighed. Also, why the feck is there 100g difference between the o/s and n/s rear quarter insulation..? They were both the same size, same thickness and dry as a bone...

Dum, why are you buying a glovebox if you're only going to hack the dash apart in a month to try and even up the weight dist. again?

[C.A.R.]

For what it's worth, I wouldn't run a stripped out standard GTi6. The weight savings you've indicated so far just don't make it worth it, unless it was for competition. In which instance you'd be adding in a 50kg+ cage to meet with the regs anyway!

It's good that you're having a laugh and all that but I think I'd prefer a car with a full interior and just put up with the extra weight of it, as the benefits of having a full interior in this instance seem to outweigh the advantage of shaving the weight in the first place.

If you're going to do it then go all-out, strip, cage, buckets and harnesses. But you'll remember Nick!'s red Rallye from back in the day, it made little compromises to save weight and it was quite a chore to drive any great distance (such as to a trackday) - yes it's a bloody good laugh when you're having a hoon but this is never, ever 100% of the time, since we have traffic, crap roads and poor weather to contend with every day.

In a nutshell; stripped interiors look wank, are not nice to spend long periods of time in and ultimately the gains aren't worth it on the road.

Does your insurance co. know that you've shed all this weight? As a car is insured for carrying X amount of passengers (4 + driver in this case). I'd wager there's a possibility you can invalidate insurance policies without advising them.

[Matt]

IYO. Stripped interiors look the tits IMO, have it fully stripped from front seats back, with a net. Will be losing standard seats for buckets, standard seatbelts for harnesses, will also have a cage. Once done I intend to use it on as many trackways as possible. I don't see it being a chore to drive atall, infact feels better to drive, feels a lot nippier? Only down side is increased noise, but with decent tyres can be reduced

[C.A.R.]

Of course all my opinion!

I did like the 'theatre' so to speak of the journey time spent in Nick's Rallye (you might remember I got him to drive me up to a Christmas meet after I wrote off my GTi6...) but I couldn't live with it everyday. One other consideration is to make sure you don't need to reach anything from the drivers seat if you're installing harnesses. Those sunglasses? Keep them in reach. The MP3 player? Again don't put it in the glovebox as it'll be out of reach. Want to change a CD? Keep that in reach too haha!

Fond memories of doing 80 down dual carriageway and undoing my harness so I could change the CD!

Wait til the winter too. That carpet you remove is very good at insulating the car. Without it, it's bloody cold!

[Dum-Dum]

SERIOUSLY did you weigh the trim screws?

Yep!

Bollocks, i was the sucker stood there with the scales. :p Gotta say though, was quite interesting to see what all the different bits weighed. Also, why the feck is there 100g difference between the o/s and n/s rear quarter insulation..? They were both the same size, same thickness and dry as a bone...

Dum, why are you buying a glovebox if you're only going to hack the dash apart in a month to try and even up the weight dist. again?

Yeah those 2 bits of insulation were an absolute shocker, I just cant see how (or why) one is 25% heavier.

I will be keeping the dash untill I can afford a cage. I hate the cages that stop before the dash board.

For what it's worth, I wouldn't run a stripped out standard GTi6. The weight savings you've indicated so far just don't make it worth it, unless it was for competition. In which instance you'd be adding in a 50kg+ cage to meet with the regs anyway!

It's good that you're having a laugh and all that but I think I'd prefer a car with a full interior and just put up with the extra weight of it, as the benefits of having a full interior in this instance seem to outweigh the advantage of shaving the weight in the first place.

If you're going to do it then go all-out, strip, cage, buckets and harnesses. But you'll remember Nick!'s red Rallye from back in the day, it made little compromises to save weight and it was quite a chore to drive any great distance (such as to a trackday) - yes it's a bloody good laugh when you're having a hoon but this is never, ever 100% of the time, since we have traffic, crap roads and poor weather to contend with every day.

In a nutshell; stripped interiors look wank, are not nice to spend long periods of time in and ultimately the gains aren't worth it on the road.

Does your insurance co. know that you've shed all this weight? As a car is insured for carrying X amount of passengers (4 + driver in this case). I'd wager there's a possibility you can invalidate insurance policies without advising them.

Mine will be fully stripped with buckets, this is just the start.

Ive had modified car insurance for many years now mate, I wouldnt risk not telling them especially as it only costs an admin fee for most mods. Think theyer gonna ra*e me when I fit my nitrous though.

In my old HDi that was stripped I never felt uncomfortable on long journeys, TBH I actually found it nicer to drive distances as the seat was far enough back I could stretch my legs rather then being squished up.

IYO. Stripped interiors look the tits IMO, have it fully stripped from front seats back, with a net. Will be losing standard seats for buckets, standard seatbelts for harnesses, will also have a cage. Once done I intend to use it on as many trackways as possible. I don't see it being a chore to drive atall, infact feels better to drive, feels a lot nippier? Only down side is increased noise, but with decent tyres can be reduced

Yeah I love the look, Its defo "because racecar" I definitely intend to get out on the track more.

Of course all my opinion!

I did like the 'theatre' so to speak of the journey time spent in Nick's Rallye (you might remember I got him to drive me up to a Christmas meet after I wrote off my GTi6...) but I couldn't live with it everyday. One other consideration is to make sure you don't need to reach anything from the drivers seat if you're installing harnesses. Those sunglasses? Keep them in reach. The MP3 player? Again don't put it in the glovebox as it'll be out of reach. Want to change a CD? Keep that in reach too haha!

Fond memories of doing 80 down dual carriageway and undoing my harness so I could change the CD!

Wait til the winter too. That carpet you remove is very good at insulating the car. Without it, it's bloody cold!

Ive gotta be honest I love the drama of it all even if its only a drive to work. The climb in, set the stereo before you move off, strap yourself in, start the engine, whole car buzzes and tingles like its alive. I absolutely love it.

Winter dosent bother me, Im sued to working outside when its freezing.
Ive got an iPod and bluetooth stereo that I can operate off the stalk so thats no issue.
I know to keep the stuff that I need within reach from having had a stripped car before.

[Grant]

For what it's worth, I wouldn't run a stripped out standard GTi6. The weight savings you've indicated so far just don't make it worth it, unless it was for competition. In which instance you'd be adding in a 50kg+ cage to meet with the regs anyway!

It's good that you're having a laugh and all that but I think I'd prefer a car with a full interior and just put up with the extra weight of it, as the benefits of having a full interior in this instance seem to outweigh the advantage of shaving the weight in the first place.

If you're going to do it then go all-out, strip, cage, buckets and harnesses. But you'll remember Nick!'s red Rallye from back in the day, it made little compromises to save weight and it was quite a chore to drive any great distance (such as to a trackday) - yes it's a bloody good laugh when you're having a hoon but this is never, ever 100% of the time, since we have traffic, crap roads and poor weather to contend with every day.

In a nutshell; stripped interiors look wank, are not nice to spend long periods of time in and ultimately the gains aren't worth it on the road.

Does your insurance co. know that you've shed all this weight? As a car is insured for carrying X amount of passengers (4 + driver in this case). I'd wager there's a possibility you can invalidate insurance policies without advising them.

After stripping the back of mine, the differences were immediately noticable.
My lowly 1.8 will happily keep up with 6's in a straight line now (just about) and it is a lot more 'nippy'. It is not all sugar coated however. The reduction in weight in the rear has raised the rear ride height, moved the centre of gravity forwards considerably, consequentially making it more lively at the back in the corners...
This is however a short term problem as a cage is going in, to stiffen up the chassis, and also provide a mounting point for my harnesses, along with a lowered rear beam on alternative shocks.

My insurance company know about my stripped interior. My premium went down for having no seats in the back (as i can carry less passengers so less of a risk to the insurance company) and for bucket seats up front it cost no extra at all.
Infact I am covered for any modifications to the interior of the car, as it was a generic interior modification code she put it under. She must have liked me or something lol.


But then my car isnt a daily, as I am fortunate enough to have the work van, so whenever it gets used, it gets abused, so it kinda fits...

[Jonny b]

A cage don't weigh 50 kg' about 27 more like it and for what you lose in a straight line you f*cking well more than make up in the twistys, untill you have driven a caged 306 you don't realize how much these chassis flex

[Dum-Dum]

So started painting the Pro Races


Washed
   



Sanded
   



Inner barrel
   



Faces
   



Taking me about a can of hammerite to do each wheel as it needs a fair old blast to do the sides of each spoke properly.

[vlj]

Incredibly jealous

[4WayDiablo]

Very nice shade of good :-) good choice Mr Dum