forged hdi rods

[toseland]

at the end of the day a forged rod is a forged rod..

funniest post of the day.

1. The stock rods are 'forged' from the factory.
2. I'm yet to see a cheapy Chinese rod fail.

I'm not saying that they're as good as high quality expensive rods from Farndon or similar.  However end of the day, 8v HDis are 10 a penny, you can't give them away - on the day I see a Chinese rod fail in a PSA HDi on stock or Alfa injectors either due to poor tolerances or general weakness, I'll eat my own head.

There is little to no point in investing a large sum of money in expensive conrods, the power levels and engine speeds are nowhere near high enough to worry about. A set of 16v RHW/RHR rods will probably be fine, but I've seen a set fail before now anyway.

People are forgetting the power is made in the fuel and air supply systems of which I've seen nobody yet that has a system actually capable of >220hp... You need to spend close to the amount to what you'd spend on high quality conrods as you would on the air and fuel supply systems to make it worthwhile having them. Conrods and pistons are merely components to allow greater quantities of above... Unless you're getting a set of significantly uprated injectors, you're not making North of 200hp anyway.

All I see are threads about conrods and exhaust manifolds and arguing over whether the Chinese rods and log manifolds are crap or not - newsflash: nobody gives a shit. Why not have a discussion about actually how to increase the fuel system capacity... Oh that's right, because nobody actually has ANY decent input because people know f*ck all about it, so it's completely ignored. But of course, we'll just slag everyone off for having the wrong conrods and log manifolds because someone once read something about how equal length runners are so important and how cheapy conrods have fantastically poor tolerances.

Stop getting all high and mighty because you spent a lot on some Farndon conrods and scoffing at cheap builds...

This...  and actually given the dynamics i cant really find any suitable, proper, solution to the nozzle and injection problem mostly due to the plane angle being f*cking annoying...  alfa/fiat JTD injectors apparently are pretty close...  but not perfect by a long shot
the 16valve head is a very very viable choice for power due to the fact that its a plane angle is parallel to the stroke..  increases the amount of injectors available immensely so there is more than likely to be a viable retrofit..


fact is you could go down the route of having them machined but with tolerances that small you are still looking at huge differences in terms of flow rate.. so the only way to do it realistically would be to have a large number of them machined and match the closest 4 tips..

that said i am waiting on jonny to get back to me regarding a few things