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302 mm Brakes CONT
#1
Just continuing on from the other thread and not spamming it with noobish comments =P

Brakes feel like they need to be done but i want to have more stopping power then i already do!

The 302 mm are from a 307 2.0 litre engine both the Derv and the petrol?
Just need to make sure this is correct before i spend some money!

Are there any modifications i need to do to fit them such as make an adaptor plate or will they just bold straight on?

Also has any one done this recently and know where to get bits cheap?
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#2
302 mm breaks what??..............

My car has no breaks, broken things tend to adversely effect things,

oh, wait, you mean brakes, sorry my bad! :roll:

They will just bolt straight on fine, they are from the 307 XSi models both diesel and petrol IIRC

they also weigh a million KG's and personally I would stick with the 283mm ones as they are more than adequate when fitted with decent pads Wink
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what would be the cheaper option? as it all boils down to my lack of cash flow!
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Ben Jay Wrote:ninja

what would be the cheaper option? as it all boils down to my lack of cash flow!

lol had to be done!

307 283mm ones would be the cheaper option as they are more common and don't have the GTi badge attached like the 306 ones do resulting in less of a price premium and the discs are cheaper than the 302's and they are easier to find as they aren't as rare due to the 283's being fitted to many more cars.

Don't get me wrong, all reports on the 302's are good that I have heard, its just the extra cost and weight that puts me off them Smile
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the 283's from gti6 and xsara vst are the cheaper option and will fit under 15" wheels, you will need 16" wheels or more to accommodate the 302's . .Smile
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I have 17s lol and the standerd brakes look like 5p peices in them!
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Or 406 brembos if you dont want the 302's but still want to put your passengers through the windscreen when you stop.
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i would love some! however need to keep costs down!

how much are the 302s usually compared with the 28s?
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Mattcheese31 Wrote:the 283's from gti6 and xsara vst are the cheaper option and will fit under 15" wheels, you will need 16" wheels or more to accommodate the 302's . .Smile

the 283's from the 307 are cheaper Matt Wink or they were a few years ago, can't see that having changed TBH
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#10
Look on ebay for the 283 and gti calipers. Or even on the 6 forum. There are some being sold all the time. Just sold a set myself. Cant comment on the 302's as I only found out about them the other week. Usually upgrades are 283 gti brakes, brembos, then 310/330 RS brembos.
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I picked up some gti 283s for 40quid
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Connor Wrote:I picked up some gti 283s for 40quid

Want to point me in their direction? lol
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How good are hdi brakes?
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Ive got a set of '6 calipers here, no pads or discs tho....
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how much would you want for the darren?
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mark_airey Wrote:
Mattcheese31 Wrote:the 283's from gti6 and xsara vst are the cheaper option and will fit under 15" wheels, you will need 16" wheels or more to accommodate the 302's . .Smile

the 283's from the 307 are cheaper Matt Wink or they were a few years ago, can't see that having changed TBH
i'm sure you're right mate, i didn't actually know they were on 307's as well . . . Smile
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Ian Wrote:There are some being sold all the time. Just sold a set myself.

Did you manage to send them out yesterday?

I've heard that the 302s are good but not a huge amount better than the 283s. Is the extra weight and cost really worth it considering 283s will still stop you well with a decent set of discs and pads.
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The 302s come from the 2.0 180 (feline/sport) and the 2.0 16v (136) hdi.
The xsi/dturbos had 283s

They are also fitted to the 207 gti, c4 vts, and some 308s
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Also there made by ate and are the only 307 calipers with the wire anti rattel clip, where as 283s are bosch with no clip
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The 2ltr dervs were XSi's
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Either way, the 283s are absolutly fine on a fast road car with decent pads. HDIs are also fine with decent pads as Ruan has proved time and time again.
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I'm going to go for hdi brakes! With decent pads and discs, heard they can be just as good as gti brakes.
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NiallHarper Wrote:
Ian Wrote:There are some being sold all the time. Just sold a set myself.

Did you manage to send them out yesterday?

I've heard that the 302s are good but not a huge amount better than the 283s. Is the extra weight and cost really worth it considering 283s will still stop you well with a decent set of discs and pads.

Yes mate, they were collected pretty much first thing.
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HDI brakes are fine with good pads on the road.
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Ye, plus I only have 14" wheels so can't go bigger!
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Connor Wrote:The 2ltr dervs were XSi's

True, but all denoted as HDi XSi, these also came with the 90 and 110 1.6 engines too, but dont know what brakes.
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Ian Wrote:Yes mate, they were collected pretty much first thing.

Lovely stuff. Start getting them refurbed tomorrow if they show up tomorrow Big Grin
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I've just warped my drivers side 302mm disc! they were used before i put them on though, and they've been on over 6 months, ordering some fresh discs tommorow.
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I'm pretty sure JP uses a set of 302mm brakes under some Team Dynamics 15" wheels...so if you wanted the cheaper tyres and "really big" OEM style brakes then that might be worth a look....

Does anyone know if the 302 HDi discs are the same as the Coupe Brembo discs?
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If you want to stop faster get better tyres not better brakes. Or better still both.

Don't get amazing brakes then cheap tyres.
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