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25-05-2013, 02:07 PM
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XUD had a dead battery this morning (was only sat for a week) popped the jump leads on for about 10 minutes, true to start, nothing.
Disconnect leads, dash lights are on, but I get a small click coming from the back of the bay (from a small blue box, it's not a relay as such, more a transistor type internals). The click isn't the common starter motor (ba earth) click.
I only changed the radiator, no electrics at all.
Voltmeter reads 12v but I'm thinking its lost its flow? Does it sound like a fubard battery
It's been known to lose its juice on a number of occasions.
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Any ideas to check before i fork out for a new battery
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turn the lights on and measure the voltage again.
with a load on a charged battery it should measure 12v or very close
if it reads less under load its either flat of fecked
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Take your terminals off the battery and clean them up, then reattach them. Mine just randomly wouldn't start and all I was getting was a relay click, took the negative off, cleaned the crap off it and boom, fired up
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(25-05-2013, 05:45 PM)cully Wrote: turn the lights on and measure the voltage again.
with a load on a charged battery it should measure 12v or very close
if it reads less under load its either flat of fecked
I got 12v during a sitting battery and also when the ignition was turned..
I'll give it a go. And forward to why I say "I hate electrics"
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Do as pellowe says :-)
Or get a jump and get it running. Go for a decent drive and see if it hold charge
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(25-05-2013, 09:55 PM)4WayDiablo Wrote: Do as pellowe says :-)
Or get a jump and get it running. Go for a decent drive and see if it hold charge
See, I heald on jump leads, and got nothing. It had the same click with the leads attached :/
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(25-05-2013, 05:45 PM)cully Wrote: turn the lights on and measure the voltage again.
with a load on a charged battery it should measure 12v or very close
if it reads less under load its either flat of fecked
with head lights off, reading pretty much dead on 12, with headlights on, 11.85'ish
(25-05-2013, 06:02 PM)cwspellowe Wrote: Take your terminals off the battery and clean them up, then reattach them. Mine just randomly wouldn't start and all I was getting was a relay click, took the negative off, cleaned the crap off it and boom, fired up
Cleaned all the terminals, still nothing.
Here's a video - see what you think
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Battery...
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...dead?
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I reckon so
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Yeh I'd guess as much; it's run flat 4/5 times now, after having as decent runs/charges
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Would anywhere be open to get another one today, do you think?
He's currently forcing me to play scrabble so I'd appreciate something else to do...
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Halfords, but only if you've got a trade card
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(26-05-2013, 12:18 PM)Anton Wrote: I reckon so 
would the car still not start, even when the 205 was hooked up to the HDI and have the HDI running so there is constant higher voltage?
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Depends on various things. Amps of jump leads?
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That click sounds like the glow plug relay to me. Get a new battery, it's old cheap and been abused recently!
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(26-05-2013, 10:10 PM)strictly_derv Wrote: That click sounds like the glow plug relay to me. Get a new battery, it's old cheap and been abused recently!
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The glow plug relay; would that stop it from starting though?
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Glow plugs not coming on would stop it starting yes, but not from cranking.
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(31-05-2013, 11:14 AM)andywhy Wrote: Glow plugs not coming on would stop it starting yes, but not from cranking.
I was thinking more in terms of shorting... causing the starter not to turn over
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So reviving this; Samass and jonny1747198372 had a look over it, with extra earthing, live battery etc, and still I have a click? What else could it be? Fuses checked ..
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bump to this; what have we/i missed?
If this can't get sorted; the 205 is going to be broken for parts
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