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		how many people assume that sleeper means shabby?!
as per original post sleeper would be mint condition or as close as I can get it.
	
	
	
	
		
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		IMO sleeper is standard looking with something special under the bonnet capable of smashing 
Much more expensive assumingly quicker cars I.e a standard looking corsa running a c20let and smashing a porsche etc ??
	
	
	
	
		
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		exactly?! skirts and gti bumpers and spoiler dont say sleeper to me?!
	
	
	
	
		
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		Don't get me wrong any cad can potentially be a sleeper or e.g a standard looking gti6 but turbo charged or supercharged ?? For e.g my mate has a mk2 golf looks completely standard but has a near 400bhp 20v turbo it's a monster button the everyday person standard 8v :-)
	
	
	
	
		
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		cool...apart from being a VW....too easy
	
	
	
	
		
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		Skirts and phase 3 front end purely say phase 3, there's no such thing as GTi specific trim.
Sleeper to me would be like Dum's sedan. Whatever bumpers you want, with steel wheels/hubcaps. Get some steelies that are 7J wide and stick some hubcaps on.
	
	
	
	
		
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		going with basic 15" steels...as got near brand new set of good 195/50/15 tyres.
like the ph1 look so not going for ph3 front end.
not slamming either...want it to be a usable handler...too low sucks for handling
	
	
	
	
		
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		I do and you are right in a way...the ph1 had different trim buts as a gti to the other less sporty models
	
	
	
	
		
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		nah I love my front and rear electric windows, that surprises people too!!!
as will my hidden new stereo system with 900watt sub!
	
	
	
	
		
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		nail in coffin to the gti look...
alloyies from a C5...
so be sleeper...will.tidy up the bumpers and bodywork as best I can and keep it looking standard...
but do I leave the wheels looking like bare steels or add wheel trims?!?!