15-04-2012, 09:04 PM
I think we're mixing up the way the system works e.g. higher education available to all who want to pursue it - a good thing
vs.
how people behave within that system - not always great.
Govt funded degrees are essential to the future of this country in every aspect in the 21st century. The list of jobs/research positions which require a undergrad/postgrad are endless and so are the benefits they will bring to this country.
Only the naive thing you need to go to uni to succeed because you don't. People always quote Alan Sugar as an example as if he's the norm!
Here are some figures from ONS:
Qualification
Median hourly pay (£)
Degree 16.10
Higher education 12.60
A Levels 10.00
GCSE grades A*-C 8.68
Other qualifications 8.07
No qualification 6.93
There's plenty of people from all walks of life and cultures sat on the dole right now because they think they are too good to do a wide variety of jobs, ever worked in a hotel? All the cleaning/kitchen staff are foreign because they willing to work bloody hard for low pay and don't have the inflated sense of self-entitlement that has developed in many white english people. Definitely went off on a tangent there but o well.
vs.
how people behave within that system - not always great.
Govt funded degrees are essential to the future of this country in every aspect in the 21st century. The list of jobs/research positions which require a undergrad/postgrad are endless and so are the benefits they will bring to this country.
Niall Wrote:With the exception of a extremely limited list of jobs (pretty much what you have listed), that's utter crap. People only think you have To go to Uni to succeed because that's what the government wanted people to think.
As previously said, look at some of the best business men in this country. Did they need Uni?
Only the naive thing you need to go to uni to succeed because you don't. People always quote Alan Sugar as an example as if he's the norm!

Here are some figures from ONS:
Qualification
Median hourly pay (£)
Degree 16.10
Higher education 12.60
A Levels 10.00
GCSE grades A*-C 8.68
Other qualifications 8.07
No qualification 6.93
Niall Wrote:Or do you genuinely believe that the UK would be a better place if everyone was highly educated because if so, that brings me back to the point of everyone had there place and if everyone does prestigious, high payed jobs, who's going to do things like empty your bins?
There's plenty of people from all walks of life and cultures sat on the dole right now because they think they are too good to do a wide variety of jobs, ever worked in a hotel? All the cleaning/kitchen staff are foreign because they willing to work bloody hard for low pay and don't have the inflated sense of self-entitlement that has developed in many white english people. Definitely went off on a tangent there but o well.
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Serious.