UNI Rant

[Eeyore]

For the record, I always make one point when this argument gets going.

I believe whole-heartedly in education for the sake of education. Why do all degrees have to be vocational? Many of my friends are doing degrees because they want to further themselves, which is EXACTLY what they're doing, even if their degree in, for example, medieval history doesn't lead on to a specific job in later life.

And therein lies the problem, as this is completely fine for those whose parents can stump up the money for it (lucky them) but for those of us that this is very much not the case we NEED loans and grants available, at a reasonable rate in order to do this.

Awaits abuse from people with 'real jobs' lol.


Oh, and for the record, I'm doing MEng Mechanical Engineering (Automotive) at the University of Birmingham, one of the pioneering universities when it comes to oppressing and exploiting their students, with the best paid Vice-Chancellor in the country.

^^ exactly this.

Don't get me wrong kez, if you want to learn for the sake of learning, that's fine. But least pay for that yourself, as niall says, its a privilege not a right and the tax payers shouldn't be left paying for someone else's "experience"

^^ not this. If tax payers didnt put money in so we didnt have student loans then there is noway that i would have £18k+ to be able to do a degree. So what? i should have had to work in a half decent job for two years.

No offence, but bollocks.

An Aston Martin benefits the nation in no way. Having an intellectually challenged and stimulated, eloquent, highly literate population can only be a good thing, and is a worthy investment.

Also the student loans systems promote social mobility on a larger scale than owt else the government give back to the population, and without it the absurd class gaps will only widen into yawning chasms. And we'll be stuck with eton lady garden in government forever, making the rich richer, and keeping the poor poor. Wonderful.

and this^^ exactly this! Its like when people said we should get rid of the monarchy becaus the queen does nothing... well it doesnt matter that she does nothing its the fact she is there which gives us vague focus as a nation and rakes in far more money in tourist stuff than the royal family actually costs! Admittedly there is a limit but tbh it all works pretty well how it is!

Rubbish. There is such a thing as having a over educated population.
Sorry but it is no ones right to go to Uni and doesn't the extremely high rate of jobless Uni students prove that Uni doesn't just get you into a job!
Secondly, you don't need to go to Uni to learn. Technically I have no qualifications what so ever ( only because I never bothered to collect my gcses) and I'm more educated in certain fields than a lot of people who work in these fields!

bollox. Sure there are jobless uni students but theyve got much higher prospects than the jobless uneducated people who must be at least 5 times larger than the jobless graduate population. Not having a go at you Niall as anyone can see you have got experience and all but there are thousands of people out there who do f*ck all and have no experience or any of the qualities which employers are after!