removing PAS

[THE_Liam]

I fail to see how height or sex has anything to do with strength.

It's hardly a luxury these days, not sure theres any cars without PAS being made now. Disc brakes were a luxury 30 years ago, but you wouldn't wanna drive with drums on the front today lol.

Won't be anyones cup of tea on here but I prefer effortless driving...e-PAS, hydro clutch, cable gearshift, light FBW throttle...even things like one touch windows and steering wheel audio controls make a huge difference. You don't NEED half the stuff that's on cars these days, but that's not the point, the point is it makes for a much nicer, more relaxed drive which I think most people would want in a daily...

So you're no stronger than a 5 foot girl? Nice...

All that crap is just expensive, heavy and easy to break. It detaches you from the driving experience and encourages you to rely on a machine and safety gear rather than your own skill and judgement.

You mean people are so used to being spoiled and having their lives made easy for them that they're incapable of doing anything without the tech and gadgets around them?

This, pretty much. Went hiking with 2 mates a few years back, I decided to rough it because I couldn't be arsed carrying loads of shit, 1 of my mates decided to try that, the other brought a huge backpack full of gear. Stopped about 7pm the first day, by 8.30pm I had a fire going, a shelter built, a pallet built in it, and was skinning a rabbit for the fire. Did that with a small hatchet, an onion bag and a tent peg. My mate with the tent was fine, but my other mate was begging him for food because he hadn't caught anything with his "trap", and he then decided to sleep under the stars. I woke up and he was in my shelter. It rained

I bet there were guys 100 years ago going 'nope, I'll stick with my horse thanks, yes its difficult, slow, uncomfortable and shits everywhere but these new fangled cars are just too easy and not manly enough'.

There are blokes still saying that now. Say you have to travel the Kamchatka peninsula, what you going to take?