22-08-2014, 11:10 AM
(This post was last modified: 22-08-2014, 11:11 AM by powerandtorque.)
I fail to see how a V6 306 can be anything approaching supercar quick I'm afraid.
Assuming that it's a standard-ish engine, you're only talking 180-200hp/ton depending how extensively stripped it is. A massive improvement over a standard GTi-6's 135hp/ton ish granted, but way off anything properly quick and down even on some of the current generation hot-hatches.
Whilst not a 306 I have driven 205 V6's and whilst undoubtedly pretty quick in a straight line by conventional standards, it still wouldn't see which way a proper modern-ish supercar went that was being given full beans. A 205 is a good 200kg lighter than a 306 too.
That said, I'm sure it feels quicker being stripped out compared to a plush supercar with little sensation of speed.
For a frame of reference, I've driven on numerous occasions a friend of mine's 230hp XE powered Westfield which must be knocking on 450-500hp/ton. That genuinely is supercar quick (atleast until the barn-door aerodynamics limit it) and makes my 205 feel like driving a bus, and yet I'm under no illusions that a V8 Radical (as per this thread) would leave it for dust on track thanks to the aero generated grip.
You can't really compare cars on a trackday with two different drivers - any one that's been to the 'Ring and watched the locals in a crappy diesel shopping-spec hatches humble Porsche 911's and the like will know that all to well!
Assuming that it's a standard-ish engine, you're only talking 180-200hp/ton depending how extensively stripped it is. A massive improvement over a standard GTi-6's 135hp/ton ish granted, but way off anything properly quick and down even on some of the current generation hot-hatches.
Whilst not a 306 I have driven 205 V6's and whilst undoubtedly pretty quick in a straight line by conventional standards, it still wouldn't see which way a proper modern-ish supercar went that was being given full beans. A 205 is a good 200kg lighter than a 306 too.
That said, I'm sure it feels quicker being stripped out compared to a plush supercar with little sensation of speed.
For a frame of reference, I've driven on numerous occasions a friend of mine's 230hp XE powered Westfield which must be knocking on 450-500hp/ton. That genuinely is supercar quick (atleast until the barn-door aerodynamics limit it) and makes my 205 feel like driving a bus, and yet I'm under no illusions that a V8 Radical (as per this thread) would leave it for dust on track thanks to the aero generated grip.
You can't really compare cars on a trackday with two different drivers - any one that's been to the 'Ring and watched the locals in a crappy diesel shopping-spec hatches humble Porsche 911's and the like will know that all to well!
1990 Peugeot 205 GTi 1.9 // 1991 Peugeot 205 GTi 1.9 16v // 1992 Peugeot 205 GTi 1.9 // 1999 Peugeot 306 HDi Estate
