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		Hi
 I've recently seen a ph1 5 door 306 S16 LHD that was imported from Europe several years ago. It has had 2 owners from new. It has done around 50k and is in mint condition. My only gripe is that it is a 5 door and my last 2 s16's were 3 door. To my knowledge the s16 was only ever made in 3 door but as this is a LHD i was wondering if they made a 5 door version for Europe? Can anyone help. I know the engine is an s16 engine having owned 2 already but I question whether the chassis is an s16?
 
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		I believe, xsi was also lablled as a s16 in Europe, or maybe that was the gti. I know 206 s16s exist. 
 
 I think that's right, so could be badged as a s16
 
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		 (30-08-2014, 06:27 PM)Matt Wrote:  I believe, xsi was also lablled as a s16 in Europe, or maybe that was the gti. I know 206 s16s exist. 
 
 I think that's right, so could be badged as a s16
 
Thanks for your reply. I know the engine is the car I'm interested in is definitely an s16 engine and not the xsi 16v. I've also owned an xsi and the engine is different. The hand book with the euro car is for xsi and s16. The xsi revs to just over 6000 rpm and the s16 revs to 7. When I look at the rev counter in this euro car the red line doesn't start until 7 so I'm inclined to say it is an s16. The only thing I question is why it is a 5 door? Any more ideas?
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Check the vin number, will be rfy or rft in it if its an s16.
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		 (30-08-2014, 08:20 PM)welshpug Wrote:  Check the vin number, will be rfy or rft in it if its an s16. 
Thanks very much I will have a look for that when I go to view it. Do you think it's possible that they made a 5 door s16 for the euro market
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Euro market did get substantially different trim levels to us. Their higher spec 306s had things like cruise control, full leather heated seats and a very crude form of satnav
	 
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		 (30-08-2014, 08:31 PM)Niall Wrote:  Euro market did get substantially different trim levels to us. Their higher spec 306s had things like cruise control, full leather heated seats and a very crude form of satnav 
Hi
 
Thanks. This model I'm going to see has half leathers in mint condition but I think that's about it. No sat nav or cruise control unfortunately. I would have liked some cruise control. It has the intergrated headrests in the rear seats. It has colour coded door handles and mirrors but not door trims. It also does not have the keypad for the immobiliser like my first s16 had. It's the 5 doors thing that's bothering me.
 
 
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		Sounds like a base spec S16. Not necessarily a bad thing, but as Niall says, a VIN number will clarify things   
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		 (30-08-2014, 09:16 PM)Grant Wrote:  Sounds like a base spec S16. Not necessarily a bad thing, but as Niall says, a VIN number will clarify things  
I've requested the vin number from the seller but it might be tomorrow now before he replies. Thanks for all your help. Please come back tomorrow and read my post when I get the vin. Cheers chaps. Opinions still welcome.
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		 (30-08-2014, 09:31 PM)S16 Wrote:   (30-08-2014, 09:16 PM)Grant Wrote:  Sounds like a base spec S16. Not necessarily a bad thing, but as Niall says, a VIN number will clarify things  I've requested the vin number from the seller but it might be tomorrow now before he replies. Thanks for all your help. Please come back tomorrow and read my post when I get the vin. Cheers chaps. Opinions still welcome.
 
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		Few pics
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 Engine should clean up
 
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		 (30-08-2014, 08:31 PM)Niall Wrote:  ...and a very crude form of satnav 
This ones got it, look at the seat back pockets!    
Seriously though, 5 doors are better anyway!     And that interior looks great tbh, rare 5 door blue carpet as well!
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		I saw this on eBay and did wonder. Looks like a tidy car though
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		 (30-08-2014, 09:51 PM)Toms306 Wrote:   (30-08-2014, 08:31 PM)Niall Wrote:  ...and a very crude form of satnav This ones got it, look at the seat back pockets!
  
 
 Seriously though, 5 doors are better anyway!
  And that interior looks great tbh, rare 5 door blue carpet as well! 
Haha nice one. I've always hated 5 doors but have struggles to find a decent s16 for a while now. If the engine purrs I can live with 5 doors. I just don't think they look quite as good as 3 doors.
 
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		Lol, I've always preferred 5drs but each to their own.    
It'll still have sport spec suspension as well btw, literally the only difference will be the extra practicality and ease of entry/exit in carparks.
	
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Yeah I noticed a definite difference between the handling of my s16 and xsi. The xsi was all over the place in comparison. The s16 was like a go kart. Have to get those whelks powdercoated I thinks
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		It should be the same tbh!     Problem is people replace parts with aftermarket which doesn't tend to be the 'sports' versions...  Plus the beams are dying on most 306s now which really doesn't help handling.
 
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		Got the vin. VF37ARFT230464105 
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		Vehicle family 	306Build code 	06447 81 2 0351
 Warranty Start Date 	01/01/1990
 
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 PRODUCT TYPE 	CAR
 COMMERCIAL MARQUE/COMPONENT TYPE 	PEUGEOT
 VEHICLE FAMILY 	306
 SILHOUETTE 	5 DOOR SALOON
 TRIM LEVEL 	SPORT 2
 ENGINE 	INJECTION XU10J4
 TRANSMISSION 	BVM5
 PAINT TYPE 	METALLIC PAINTWORK
 INTERIOR TRIM TYPE 	HOUSTON VELVET "C8"
 UPHOLSTERY COLOUR 	"FM"
 GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) 	BE3
 ENGINE (TYPE) 	XU/XUD
 OTHER BADGE, " MISC. " 	WITHOUT FULLER BADGE
 BADGE 	S16
 
 General information
 
 PRODUCT TYPE 	CAR
 COMMERCIAL MARQUE/COMPONENT TYPE 	PEUGEOT
 VEHICLE FAMILY 	306
 SILHOUETTE 	5 DOOR SALOON
 TRIM LEVEL 	SPORT 2
 ENGINE 	INJECTION XU10J4
 TRANSMISSION 	BVM5
 PAINT TYPE 	METALLIC PAINTWORK
 INTERIOR TRIM TYPE 	HOUSTON VELVET "C8"
 UPHOLSTERY COLOUR 	"FM"
 GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) 	BE3
 ENGINE (TYPE) 	XU/XUD
 OTHER BADGE, " MISC. " 	WITHOUT FULLER BADGE
 BADGE 	S16
 
 Vehicle characteristics
 
 TRIM LEVEL 	SPORT 2
 PAINT TYPE 	METALLIC PAINTWORK
 INTERIOR TRIM TYPE 	HOUSTON VELVET "C8"
 UPHOLSTERY COLOUR 	"FM"
 GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) 	BE3
 STEERING 	POWER STEERING
 SPEEDOMETER DRIVE 	TACHO TORQUE 22X19
 
 Fuel supply-Engine
 
 ENGINE 	INJECTION XU10J4
 FUEL FILLER CAP 	FUEL CAP WITHOUT LOCK
 CYLINDER BLOCK (MATERIAL) 	CRANKCASE CAST IRON
 FUEL 	LEAD FREE PETROL
 EMISSIONS STANDARD (ENGINE) 	EEC 19-5 DEPOLL (ENGINE)
 PRE-FILTER 	ASSEMBLY WITHOUT PRE-FILTER
 SPEED SENSOR SIGNAL 	SENSOR HALL EFFECT
 ENGINE (TYPE) 	XU/XUD
 CATALYTIC CONVERTER 	3 PARTS CATALYST
 OIL COOLER 	MNTG WATER/OIL EXCHANGER ON ENGINE
 ENGINE TEMP. NOZZLE 	ENGINE WATER TEMPERATURE BOX
 CRANKCASE GAS CIRCUIT HEATING 	W/O HEATER CASING GAS CIRCUIT
 POWER VARIATION (ENGINE) 	STANDARD POWER
 REGULATION 70/221 (FUEL LEAKS) 	WITH ANTI-RETURN VALVE
 RHEOSTAT 	RHEOSTAT
 FAN 	2 FANS , MOTOR 200W
 FUEL VAPOUR RETRIEVAL 	CONTROLLED PETROL VAPOUR RECUPERATION
 INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT 	W/O INJECTION VARIANT
 
 Gearbox Transmission
 
 TRANSMISSION 	BVM5
 GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) 	BE3
 FINAL DRIVE RATIO 	REAR AXLE HYPOID GEARSET 14 X 62
 SPEEDOMETER DRIVE 	TACHO TORQUE 22X19
 WHEEL STYLE 	ALLOY WHEEL LAZER
 CLUTCH 	CABLE CLUTCH ASSITED CNTRL
 AIR CHAMBER 	WITHOUT INNER TUBE
 TYRE (SIZE, TYPE) 	195X55X15 TYRES
 WHEELS FITTED 	6" RIM ROAD WHEELS
 WHEEL (TYPE) 	ALLOY WHEELS
 
 Suspension-Steering-Brakes
 
 ABS 	WITH ABS BRAKES
 REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR 	REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAM 24
 STEERING 	POWER STEERING
 FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR 	FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAM 21
 TRACTION CONTROL 	WITHOUT ANTISLIPPING
 BRAKE TYPE 	VENTILATED FRONT DISCS/REAR DISCS
 SUSPENSION 	IMPROVED SUSPENSION
 BRAKE ASSOCIATED VARIANT 	ABS ADDITIONAL
 
 Body fittings
 
 HORNS 	AIR HORN
 AERIAL 	SHORT ROOF AERIAL
 FUEL FILLER CAP 	FUEL CAP WITHOUT LOCK
 WIPER ARM 	FRONT BLADE WITH DEFLECTOR
 HOOD 	WITHOUT HOOD
 REAR SPOILER 	ASSEMBLY WITH REAR SPOILER
 SIDE MOULDINGS (DIMENSION) 	LATERAL PROTECTORS L=57 + SIDE SILL
 WHEEL EMBELLISHER (STYLE) 	LASER HUB CAP
 SIDE REPEATER INDICATORS 	SIDE FLASH-UNIT ASSEMBLY
 THIRD BRAKE LAMP 	W/O EYE LEVEL REAR LIGHTS
 HARD TOP 	WITHOUT HARD-TOP
 EXHAUST TAILPIPE TRIM 	WITH EXHAUST OUTLET EMBELLISHER
 LIGHT 	CLEAR GLASS
 REAR SCREEN WIPER 	REAR SCREEN WIPER
 HEADLAMP WIPER 	W/O HEADLAMP WIPER
 BUMPER 	SPORT LOWER+UPPER PART BODY COLOUR
 NUMBER PLATE 	WITHOUT LICENCE PLATE
 FRONT FOGLAMP 	FRONT FOG LIGHTS
 SPECIAL HEADLAMP (DOUBLE OPTIC) 	DOUBLE OPTIC LAMPS
 EXTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE) 	HT EXT RRVW MIRROR EL INT CONTR
 EXTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR (PASSENGER SIDE) 	OUTSIDE PASS RRVIEW MIRROR HEATED ELEC CNTRL
 SPARE WHEEL 	EMERGENCY WHEEL
 EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES 	BODY COLOURED DOOR HANDLES + MIRRORS
 SPARE WHEEL MOUNTING 	SECURE SPARE WHEEL CARRIER
 SUN ROOF 	FIXED ROOF
 REAR WINDOW (TYPE) 	REAR GLASS HEATED
 GLASS (APPEARANCE) 	TINTED
 REAR QUARTER WINDOW (TYPE) 	WITHOUT REAR QUARTER GLASS
 
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 INTERIOR TRIM TYPE 	HOUSTON VELVET "C8"
 SIDE ARMREST (TYPE) 	LATERAL ARMREST FOAM FRONT/RR
 ANTI-THEFT ALARM 	WITHOUT THEFT PROTECTION ALARM
 REAR HEAD RESTRAINT 	REAR HEADREST INTEGRAL
 FRONT HEAD RESTRAINT 	JOINTED FRONT HEADREST
 REAR SEAT 	SEPARATE FOLD BACK BENCH SEAT
 REAR SEAT ARMREST 	WITHOUT REAR ARMREST
 LUGGAGE COVER 	WITH LUGGAGE COVER
 REAR SEATBELT 	RR RETRACT BELT+STATIC LAP
 FRONT SEATBELT 	PYROTECHNIC SEAT BELT WITHOUT ALARM
 CLIMATE (AMBIENT TEMP) 	COLD COUNTRIES
 AIR CONDITIONING 	WITH AIR RECYCLING
 SPEED GRADUATIONS 	GRADUATION KMS/H
 GRAB HANDLES 	FR + RR HANDLES WITH HOOKS
 TACHOMETER 	REV COUNTER WITH NEEDLE
 CONSOLE 	LONG CONSOLE WITH AIR DUCT
 DRIVING POSITION 	LEFT HAND DRIVE
 REMOTE CONTROL 	REMOTE CONTROL ASSEMBLY
 DASHBOARD EQUIPMENT 	DASHBOARD COVER WITH RUBBER INSET
 MISC. INT. LAMPS 	MAP READING LAMP
 TACHOMETER (SIGNAL CONNECTION) 	REV COUNTER CALC
 CHILD SEAT ANCHORING POINTS 	WITHOUT CHILD SEAT MOUNTING
 LOUDSPEAKER 	W/O LOUDSPEAKERS
 RADIO CONTROLS 	WITHOUT REMOTE RADIO CONTROL
 FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL 	WITHOUT FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT ADJUSTMENT
 DRIVER SEAT CONTROL 	DRIVERS FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTROL
 FRONT PASSENGER SEAT CONTROL 	PASSENGER FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTR
 DRIVER SEAT ADJUSTMENT 	INCLIN DRIVERS SEAT SQUAB FIXED LAT+LUMBAR BEARING
 FRONT PASSENGER SEAT ADJUSTMENT 	PASSENG TILTING BACKREST FIXED LATERAL BEARING
 ROOF CONSOLE 	LONG ROOF CONSOLE
 CHOKE CONTROL 	WITHOUT CHOKE FLAP CONTROL
 EXTERIOR TEMP. INDICATOR 	EXT TEMP INDICATOR
 REAR WINDOW LIFT 	MAN CTRL REAR WINDOW LIFTER
 DRIVER’S WINDOW LIFT 	SEQUENTIAL DRIVER’S ELECTRIC WINDOW
 PASSENGER’S WINDOW LIFT 	ELEC CNTRL PASS FRONT WINDOW LIFTER
 CLOCK 	NUMERIC CLOCK
 COURTESY MIRROR 	DRIVER+PASSENGER WITHOUT LIGHTING
 OIL PRESSURE GAUGE 	OIL PRESSURE INDICATOR
 OIL GAUGE 	STD OIL LEVEL INDICATOR
 HEATING ELEMENT 	NON HEATED SEAT
 IGNITION CODE (OPERATION) 	TYPE GERMANY CODED IGNITION
 COURTESY LAMP 	FR+RE DOORS CONT - FR+RE INTERIOR LAMP
 HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER 	REMOTE MANUAL HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
 FRONT SEAT GUARD 	WITHOUT SEPARATION GRILLE
 RADIO RECEIVER 	NO RADIO
 REFRIGERATION 	AIR CONDITIONING
 CRUISE CONTROL 	WITHOUT SPEED CONTROL
 DRIVER’S SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL 	PARALLEL DRV HEIGHT ADJ
 RHEOSTAT 	RHEOSTAT
 AIR CON./TEMPERATURE REGULATION 	WITH REGULATION AIRCON/TEMP
 CARPET COVER 	W/O CARPETMAT
 DRIVER AIRBAG 	NO DRIVERS AIR BAG
 CARPET 	TUFTED CARPET "F112"
 EXTERIOR TEMPERATURE (SCALE) 	EXT TEMP INDICATOR CELSIUS
 SWITCH 	CODED IGNITION
 WATER TEMP INDICATOR 	WATER TEMP INDIC +RED TELLTALE
 LOCKING CONTROL 	CENTRAL DEAD LOCKING
 REAR WINDOW (TYPE) 	REAR GLASS HEATED
 REAR QUARTER WINDOW (TYPE) 	WITHOUT REAR QUARTER GLASS
 STEERING WHEEL 	SPORT LEATHER STEERING WHEEL
 STORAGE SPACE LOCKS 	LOCKING GLOVEBOX
 FAN 	2 FANS , MOTOR 200W
 
 Electrical
 
 ALTERNATOR 	ALTERNATOR 80 AMP
 HORNS 	AIR HORN
 BATTERY 	BATTERY L1 300
 REMOTE CONTROL 	REMOTE CONTROL ASSEMBLY
 STARTER MOTOR 	STARTER MOTOR CL 4
 SPECIAL LIGHTING 	WITHOUT PARTICULAR LIGHT
 MISC. INT. LAMPS 	MAP READING LAMP
 SIDE REPEATER INDICATORS 	SIDE FLASH-UNIT ASSEMBLY
 THIRD BRAKE LAMP 	W/O EYE LEVEL REAR LIGHTS
 LIGHT 	CLEAR GLASS
 COURTESY LAMP 	FR+RE DOORS CONT - FR+RE INTERIOR LAMP
 FRONT FOGLAMP 	FRONT FOG LIGHTS
 HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER 	REMOTE MANUAL HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
 SPECIAL HEADLAMP (DOUBLE OPTIC) 	DOUBLE OPTIC LAMPS
 Component manufacturers
 BRAKE ASSOCIATED VARIANT 	ABS ADDITIONAL
 INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT 	W/O INJECTION VARIANT
 Miscellaneous
 SPECIAL SPECIFICATION 	STANDARD
 ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS 	NORMAL ATMOSPHERE
 DRIVING POSITION 	LEFT HAND DRIVE
 DOOR SEAL 	SEAL DIRT EXCLUDER
 SURFACE CONDITIONS 	GOOD TERRAIN
 EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES 	BODY COLOURED DOOR HANDLES + MIRRORS
 SPEED MONITORING 	WITHOUT SPEED CHECK
 EMERGENCY WARNING TRIANGLE 	WARNING TRIANGLE CONDITIONNING
 
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		Rare, how come no one has retrofitted cruise control to a rhd 306?
	 
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		I looked on service box and the parts aren't even listed, just has a CC section.
 I wonder how it even worked.
 
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		 (07-09-2014, 07:54 PM)RetroPug Wrote:  I looked on service box and the parts aren't even listed, just has a CC section.
 I wonder how it even worked.
 
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		 (30-08-2014, 08:31 PM)Niall Wrote:  Euro market did get substantially different trim levels to us. Their higher spec 306s had things like cruise control, full leather heated seats and a very crude form of satnav 
Does that mean we over here might be able to get hold of and fit some of these extras?
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		 (07-09-2014, 09:18 PM)impotentials Wrote:   (30-08-2014, 08:31 PM)Niall Wrote:  Euro market did get substantially different trim levels to us. Their higher spec 306s had things like cruise control, full leather heated seats and a very crude form of satnav Does that mean we over here might be able to get hold of and fit some of these extras?
 
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		 (07-09-2014, 09:23 PM)impotentials Wrote:  Full leather heated seats sound good as well. Liking the built in head rests. 
Yeah I prefer them to the separate ones. Full leather seats would be nice but what condition they'll be on now, god knows. I saw a photo of someone's 306 and it had rx8 seats in it. Looked alright
 
 
Oh and it does have the keypad to start the engine with. The seller said it didn't but when I turned up to look at it, it did. Duh!!
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		 (07-09-2014, 09:23 PM)impotentials Wrote:  Full leather heated seats sound good as well. Liking the built in head rests. 
Try and get some full leathers from a 306 cab
	 
		
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