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Recently got my sedan on the road and can't help but think the pumps not set right so what's the proper way of doing it I've heard of a few ways but which one is the right way

Boost comp screw all the way out, max fuel in? Need to be more specific really.

Why you think it's not set right lad?

Your not far from Jenks if you ask him nicely sure he will have it ripping the clutch to bits after about 5 mins he did that to mine after I made a mess of setting pump up

ran fine when I had it mate.

Just seems really laggy like its running too much fuel loads of black smoke as well

Need to learn to control it with your right foot

(30-01-2014, 08:41 PM)Danny2009 Wrote: [ -> ]Need to learn to control it with your right foot

This, use like half throttle slowly building up to full throttle as its spooling

You just gotta feed it in, if you cant work that out on your own then you should give up now. < No offence intended to op, people give out that answer like its some kind of secret when really anyone can feel whats happening through the pedal and how fast your going. If its coaling loads then it proably does need tinkering with...

Do you no what td04 you put on it? Is it the smallest one or one of the bigger ones? If it's one of the bigger ones that won't help

I told you before tom, its how these bigger "old" turbos run, you have to live with the lag lol.

You need a VNT

(31-01-2014, 10:40 AM)darrenjlobb Wrote: [ -> ]You need a VNT

This....110%....

That's if you don't want to wait for the blower to spool

Or a GTs to be honest...

what piggy said, similar to vnt but without the hassle.

Max fuel 3/4 turn in, boost compensator 1 1/4 turn.

still hellish difference between a same size vnt and wastegate, especially if they're properly controlled. Tom (zx_volcane) has nailed it with his arduino control. You can make these diesels perform like they are fast non-turbos petrols just by having the torque so linear (I know you wouldn't want that but you get the idea) 250ftlb from the word go.

GT22V...

(24-02-2014, 01:52 AM)Dave Wrote: [ -> ]still hellish difference between a same size vnt and wastegate, especially if they're properly controlled. Tom (zx_volcane) has nailed it with his arduino control. You can make these diesels perform like they are fast non-turbos petrols just by having the torque so linear (I know you wouldn't want that but you get the idea) 250ftlb from the word go.

Yeah...we are all just waiting for GTB turbos to drop in price tbh...
All that effort to control VNT may aswell go on an even better turbo.

GTB2260vlkr ftw

I had a GT2359V sat at work about a month ago...

(25-02-2014, 05:22 PM)ADV_93 Wrote: [ -> ]I had a GT2359V sat at work about a month ago...

I had a GT2559v that I couldnt sell...big ass thing...

but GTB is the way forward now

(25-02-2014, 05:22 PM)Piggy Wrote: [ -> ]

(25-02-2014, 05:22 PM)ADV_93 Wrote: [ -> ]I had a GT2359V sat at work about a month ago...

I had a GT2559v that I couldnt sell...big ass thing...

but GTB is the way forward now

Aren't GTB all variable vane now?

I know the newer Mercs run GTB turbos and they go well

Oh yeah!!!

In lamens terms, Garrett started with "T" turbos, then "GTs", then "GT....VNT"...now the latest gen is "GTB....vlkr"

I was going compound, but Im going to save for a GTB now as they are just silly good at what they do!

(25-02-2014, 05:36 PM)Piggy Wrote: [ -> ]Oh yeah!!!

In lamens terms, Garrett started with "T" turbos, then "GTs", then "GT....VNT"...now the latest gen is "GTB....vlkr"

I was going compound, but Im going to save for a GTB now as they are just silly good at what they do!

You'll have to excuse me i'm not all up to date with turbocharger codes and series mate!

They seems alright, just a lot of them come with the control for the Variable vane as part of the turbo body itself.

(25-02-2014, 05:50 PM)ADV_93 Wrote: [ -> ]

(25-02-2014, 05:36 PM)Piggy Wrote: [ -> ]Oh yeah!!!

In lamens terms, Garrett started with "T" turbos, then "GTs", then "GT....VNT"...now the latest gen is "GTB....vlkr"

I was going compound, but Im going to save for a GTB now as they are just silly good at what they do!

You'll have to excuse me i'm not all up to date with turbocharger codes and series mate!

They seems alright, just a lot of them come with the control for the Variable vane as part of the turbo body itself.

no its ok, its a bit more complex than that but thats a general idea.

You are right though, most of the GTBs have a circuit board/actuator box on them...although could be controlled otherwise

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and its very hard to find even little GTBs at less than £200...

I hunt everyother day for a sub £200 GTB2260 and not yet found one even close...most want £300-400!

(25-02-2014, 05:56 PM)Piggy Wrote: [ -> ]

(25-02-2014, 05:50 PM)ADV_93 Wrote: [ -> ]

(25-02-2014, 05:36 PM)Piggy Wrote: [ -> ]Oh yeah!!!

In lamens terms, Garrett started with "T" turbos, then "GTs", then "GT....VNT"...now the latest gen is "GTB....vlkr"

I was going compound, but Im going to save for a GTB now as they are just silly good at what they do!

You'll have to excuse me i'm not all up to date with turbocharger codes and series mate!

They seems alright, just a lot of them come with the control for the Variable vane as part of the turbo body itself.

no its ok, its a bit more complex than that but thats a general idea.

You are right though, most of the GTBs have a circuit board/actuator box on them...although could be controlled otherwise

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and its very hard to find even little GTBs at less than £200...

I hunt everyother day for a sub £200 GTB2260 and not yet found one even close...most want £300-400!

With a little bit of easy modification you could get that running off vacuum. Although i bet there's a bit more to running a VNT than just a vacuum/pressure.

We rang midland turbo, and a rebuild for the bigger GT23 was just shy of £400, that's new bearings, seals, internals etc.

(25-02-2014, 06:09 PM)ADV_93 Wrote: [ -> ]

(25-02-2014, 05:56 PM)Piggy Wrote: [ -> ]

(25-02-2014, 05:50 PM)ADV_93 Wrote: [ -> ]You'll have to excuse me i'm not all up to date with turbocharger codes and series mate!

They seems alright, just a lot of them come with the control for the Variable vane as part of the turbo body itself.

no its ok, its a bit more complex than that but thats a general idea.

You are right though, most of the GTBs have a circuit board/actuator box on them...although could be controlled otherwise

---

and its very hard to find even little GTBs at less than £200...

I hunt everyother day for a sub £200 GTB2260 and not yet found one even close...most want £300-400!

With a little bit of easy modification you could get that running off vacuum. Although i bet there's a bit more to running a VNT than just a vacuum/pressure.

We rang midland turbo, and a rebuild for the bigger GT23 was just shy of £400, that's new bearings, seals, internals etc.

ouch. Could buy 3 turbos for that price!!

yeah but the way I see it, is off a vacuum loses most of the advantages of VNT...so if you go through hassle of the VNT...set it up right like ZX_Volcane...
hats off to him!


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(25-02-2014, 06:12 PM)Piggy Wrote: [ -> ]

(25-02-2014, 06:09 PM)ADV_93 Wrote: [ -> ]

(25-02-2014, 05:56 PM)Piggy Wrote: [ -> ]no its ok, its a bit more complex than that but thats a general idea.

You are right though, most of the GTBs have a circuit board/actuator box on them...although could be controlled otherwise

---

and its very hard to find even little GTBs at less than £200...

I hunt everyother day for a sub £200 GTB2260 and not yet found one even close...most want £300-400!

With a little bit of easy modification you could get that running off vacuum. Although i bet there's a bit more to running a VNT than just a vacuum/pressure.

We rang midland turbo, and a rebuild for the bigger GT23 was just shy of £400, that's new bearings, seals, internals etc.

ouch. Could buy 3 turbos for that price!!

yeah but the way I see it, is off a vacuum loses most of the advantages of VNT...so if you go through hassle of the VNT...set it up right like ZX_Volcane...
hats off to him!


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Nearly worth as much as my car that price! I'll have to have a look at ZX_Volcane, i've heard a lot of things about his car! Really interested to see the set up!

here ya go...a BARGAIN!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Garrett-GTB226...35bd4a52fb

(25-02-2014, 07:19 PM)Piggy Wrote: [ -> ]here ya go...a BARGAIN!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Garrett-GTB226...35bd4a52fb

Nearly £850 FOR A TURBO. If you have the motivation and the money to throw at it, why not.

Not sure that turbo would be big enough for my M104...