is this a 2.1 engine

[pioneer DJ paddy]

Was lookin at a few engine s in work and came a cross this [attachment=19817][attachment=19818][attachment=19819][attachment=19820][attachment=19821]

[Midnightclub]

Looks like a 2.0/2.2 16v HDi unit, although I don't know them well enough to say which, someone will confirm

[silverzx]

I'd guess 2.2 HDi by the inlet but again I'm not a guru!

[Toms306]

It's a HDi so not a 2.1.

Oops, too late.

[pioneer DJ paddy]

Lol I no feck all about them ether lol BT have 2.2 hdi ones here to BT there 8v ones

[Ruan]

Almost defo a 2.2HDi - can tell by turbo.

[Dum-Dum]

Its definitely a 16v HDi lump

I wouldnt like to say if it was a 2.0 or a 2.2 because although I agree with ruan about the turbo it looks a tad short to be the 2.2.

[silverzx]

Either way a good motor to radge a mechanical pump on.

[pioneer DJ paddy]

Either way a good motor to radge a mechanical pump on.

That's what I was thinking :-)

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Engine code is
PSA 4hx
10 dz 10
4008692

[Dum-Dum]

The 2.2 16v I have here says

4038648
10 DZ 17
PSA 4HX

That's on the belt cover but this is slightly different to what's on the block so I assume its been changed at some point and I'm not crawling around on the floor outside to find the block number.

[pioneer DJ paddy]

The 2.2 16v I have here says

4038648
10 DZ 17
PSA 4HX

That's on the belt cover but this is slightly different to what's on the block so I assume its been changed at some point and I'm not crawling around on the floor outside to find the block number.

Lol k so its a 2.2 hdi 16v can that be fitted in a 306 :-) that the next question.....

[Midnightclub]

It can and has been done.. Jimmer has the 2.2 16v HDi dimma so could be worth popping him a PM for some advice? or his project thread etc..

[silverzx]

Darren also ran one. Sure he has LOADS of pictures.

[pioneer DJ paddy]

Thanks every one I will take a look at them then to he mutch messing about there is to fit it lol

[Dum-Dum]

Darren never ran the 2.2?

The main issue with fitting the 2.2 over the 2L is the fact that the block is about 10mm taller and this makes the engine VERY close to the master cylinder.

IIRC bits need trimming off the cam position sensor and plastics in that area

[silverzx]

It was 2.0 then, go for it, mechanical 2.2 should be interesting!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjTINDYx...w&index=37

[Ruan]

Darren never ran the 2.2?

The main issue with fitting the 2.2 over the 2L is the fact that the block is about 10mm taller and this makes the engine VERY close to the master cylinder.

IIRC bits need trimming off the cam position sensor and plastics in that area

Or drop the engine downwards...

The 2.2 is much more awkward to fit than the 2.0 - putting a mechanical pump on is not a 20 second job....

It's definitely a 2.2 as the turbo is a GT1549P rather than the standard GT1549 as put on the 2.0 16v.

[mr_fish]

The 2.0 16v an 'RHR' engine code AFAIK

[pioneer DJ paddy]

Darren never ran the 2.2?

The main issue with fitting the 2.2 over the 2L is the fact that the block is about 10mm taller and this makes the engine VERY close to the master cylinder.

IIRC bits need trimming off the cam position sensor and plastics in that area

Or drop the engine downwards...

The 2.2 is much more awkward to fit than the 2.0 - putting a mechanical pump on is not a 20 second job....

It's definitely a 2.2 as the turbo is a GT1549P rather than the standard GT1549 as put on the 2.0 16v.

How hard would fitting a Bosch mechanical pump be I no its not easy BT would be worth it in the end up wouldn't it :-)

[toseland]

i am wondering how it would faire putting a 2.216v hdi in the 306....

much work?

[Ruan]

The 2.0 16v an 'RHR' engine code AFAIK

RHR is a Siemens HDi - this is defo a Bosch

The 2.0 16v Bosch HDi has engine codes RHM, RHW, RHT.

RHM Tends to be the Automatic, I think the RHW/RHT might be DPF/Non-DPF motors respectively.

Fitting a 2.2 into a 306 is a twat, especially when you consider that the bore of the 2.0/2.2 8v/16v is the same - why not just ram the 2.2/2.0 head on an 8v bottom end with 16v pistons in... So much easier.

[pioneer DJ paddy]

The 2.0 16v an 'RHR' engine code AFAIK

RHR is a Siemens HDi - this is defo a Bosch

The 2.0 16v Bosch HDi has engine codes RHM, RHW, RHT.

RHM Tends to be the Automatic, I think the RHW/RHT might be DPF/Non-DPF motors respectively.

Fitting a 2.2 into a 306 is a twat, especially when you consider that the bore of the 2.0/2.2 8v/16v is the same - why not just ram the 2.2/2.0 head on an 8v bottom end with 16v pistons in... So much easier.

Thanks for the info ruan not doing any thing for a while BT I will have a good think about what u said wat could one of these engine make bhp whise with the right turbo on it . wat way would u have to work the camshaft sensor and all that sort of stuff :-)