The KKK Turbo.

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The KKK Turbo.
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Right well finally got my head under the car and discovered my car to be a KKK the one with the internal wastegate as per darrens useful vids on youtube. The previous owner of the car had turned the fuelling up but not the turbo as it was running a standard 14psi. so i decided to crack on and turn it up. at first as mentioned in darrens guide i turned it 1 and a half turns clockwise. Took it for a run and nothing changed.... so came back double checked i had done it right and turned it a further 1 and a half turns. This improved it on the 2nd run it started off seemingly at 14 psi again after a couple of blasts it krept up to 17/18psi so thought great just as darrens says is a safe psi to run. eventualy the last reading i got was around 19psi verging onto 20. but oddly the car didnt seem any quicker seemed flat?

So couple of questions

1) I do believe the KKK is the poorest of the 4 turbos these have as standerd?
2) so which would be a better option to change too?
3) with the psi seemingly increasing the more a blast the car does is this because the wastegate is bedding in?
4) is 3 turns too much or can i increase the psi further safely?

i plan to change to a bosch which i have and fmic along with an oil cooler and new nissens rad too as i noticed the car running hotter now.

Sorry for the seemingly noobish questions but as we know .net search is poor and this site is fairly new and questions like this arent as common

cheers guys
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the kkk14 is not the poorest turbo at all mate, in fact out of the 4 it's second only to the T2 . . .there's not much in it between the k14 and the T2 really, wouldn't bother swapping unless you're going for something totally different, ie TD04, T25 etc . . .Smile
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well that answers that one then haha i dont know where i had heard of it being poor...
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Have you got smoke on/off boost?
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no not really once on boost the smoke clears up this was before and after. smokes less now though i reckon
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what fuel pump you running?
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its on a lucas atm bosch waiting to go on
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this maybe part the reason pal - if you havnt got the fuel to compliment the turbo boost, it will have little effect.
You can turn the turbo up all you wish but without the fuel mate... your just blowinggg Tongue

would also explain a lack of smoke ?
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the pump has previously been turned up and producing allot of smoke prior so id assume by now it should be matched up
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Jenkosowls Wrote:the pump has previously been turned up and producing allot of smoke prior so id assume by now it should be matched up

hm youd find the difference once a bosch is fitted and put that 19psi to use.

Im running a bosch a KKK @ 18psi, and pulls immensely - the difference the bosch makes...
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it use to pull well before i turned it up and now its doesnt seem like it has the torque it did. im going to see how it goes for now the psi seems to be getting better and better its not like i cant fine tune it easily. im not touching the lucas cant reallly be bothered to drain fuel etc etc. which is one reason im looking forward to the bosch just turn a screw and your done.
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