Sweet Diesel News

[MY95]

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news/pric...d=1PRCDEFE

Will be nice to see the litre go below a pound! £4.53 a gallon sounds pretty good too, will take full advantage of that!

[Anton]

Just paid 99.9p for diesel in Cornwall ☺

[thododd]

8p/mile!! Glad i got my HDi when i did

[Magenta Sunset]

arsebicsuits! just tanked up for next week yesterday

[Toms306]

Glad I waited now lol, was going to fill up on the 1st lol.

How can oil prices still be dropping though? I thought it was running out? And some foreigners wanted to keep it themselves?

[welshpug]

there's decades of oil left.

[Niall]

Oil prices are going down because they are currently over stocked on it. As Welshpug says, there's decades worth left

[Stef205]

changing subject slightly i want them use most of it so they are force to bring back E85!

[bashbarnard]

I don't think I've ever seen e85 at pump here. I've known people who have got hold of it. God knows how though. But good news for fuel I guess.....

[Midnightclub]

It was at the pumps at morrisons for a little bit down here, this was a 'few' years back though

[Stef205]

e85 was stopped in 09' sadly.

[cully]

E85 is still available but not as a pump fuel
you buy it in 20-25ltr drums from oil supplyers as race fuel

[Midnightclub]

e85 was stopped in 09' sadly.

What was the reasoning behind it, something emissions related?

[powerandtorque]

Wasn't financially viable from memory, which makes sense when you think how few cars out there are able to take advantage (and how few of the owners of said cars are aware)

[Stef205]

E85 is still available but not as a pump fuel
you buy it in 20-25ltr drums from oil supplyers as race fuel

yeah im aware of that already been onto guy at omex to update the firmware for a flex fuel sensor

who cares about mpg when youve around 110 octane, more boost, more ignition, and a higher AKI.

[Ruan]

Because it's also horrifically inefficient to produce... The amount of land required to grow enough for demand is simply staggering...

Or maybe just use a fuel where you're not limited by it detonating...

Can open, worms everywhere.

[Stef205]

I dont suffer with knock at all but the gains are ridiculous that if it was available youd be silly not to use it.

[Toms306]

I'm such an idiot... Went out to buy diesel at Sainsburys...ended up on auto-pilot at BP, who haven't dropped the price. Doh...

Tbf, it was only half a tank, so £1.25 different, still annoying.

[Ruan]

I dont suffer with knock at all but the gains are ridiculous that if it was available youd be silly not to use it.

You'd be able to generate more power if you weren't limited by the knock threshold though, you could invariably run more boost and ign timing and therefore more power... Almost any FI engine won't be running at it's MBT angle.

SI engines will almost always be limited by knock - CI engines you've just got to make them stay together. Tis why Banks engineering have near enough given up with development on turbo/blown V8s etc on the basis they know that every time, they'll run into knock.

[Stef205]

of course knock is always a issue and it always will be but e85 has a much greater aki over petrol. The gains even before any adjustment is still staggering. Ive seen engines gain upto 50bhp from the change. But with a decent and knowledgeable mapper would know the limits anyway. But in my eyes and my mapper it would be a must if it was readily available.

[1616six]

Won't be cheap for long if Saudi goes to war..

[MY95]

Thankfully I just filled up JJ £51 for £51.15 litres was amazing seeing the litres going up slightly more than the pound for once!

[Ruan]

I think my point hasn't quite been seen, since there's no barrage of shit flowing in my direction

[1616six]

Thankfully I just filled up JJ £51 for £51.15 litres was amazing seeing the litres going up slightly more than the pound for once!

If they don't go to war there are talks of it getting back down to 70ppl again. 

I wouldn't be surprised if they do go to war, if they do it could potentially be back to 130ppl within weeks.

[ozpug]

They can always start designing modern diesel engines to handle bio diesel when the time comes...

[Toms306]

No point bothering with bio diesel... Small petrols are the future until hydrogen becomes viable...

[ozpug]

There's a guy over here who sells hydrogen kits for cars that are very affordable. Not For running the the whole car but for a more efficient burn. Why no more diesels you think?

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For those interested http://hydrogenfuelsystems.com.au/

[Toms306]

Diesels will be killed off through emmision regs, you just can't make them as clean as petrols, even with expensive DPFs, EGRs and sophisticated mapping.

Tax will be the same price from 2017 here, MPG is getting close. So basically you're buying a more expensive car, with more frequent and expensive servicing, and more expensive parts if they do go wrong without the tax and MPG benefits!

[Magenta Sunset]

Glad I waited now lol, was going to fill up on the 1st lol.

How can oil prices still be dropping though?  I thought it was running out?  And some foreigners wanted to keep it themselves?

I wuz on the red light

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Thankfully I just filled up JJ £51 for £51.15 litres was amazing seeing the litres going up slightly more than the pound for once!

If they don't go to war there are talks of it getting back down to 70ppl again. 

I wouldn't be surprised if they do go to war, if they do it could potentially be back to 130ppl within weeks.

don't you mean days JJ?

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No point bothering with bio diesel...  Small petrols are the future until hydrogen becomes viable...

i'd like to run on it again if I could. 50/70p ltr & sustainable.
but yeah, hydrogen is prob the way it'll go.

[powerandtorque]

If they don't go to war there are talks of it getting back down to 70ppl again. 

I can't see that given that fuel duty alone is around 58p/litre I believe and you've got 20% VAT on top of that as well, which brings it to 69p before you've taken into account the cost of the fuel itself and distribution, retail etc. When you remove that taxation, the current cost of fuel really is very cheap indeed.