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Clutch F#$k Up HELP!!!!!
#1
Just had the clutch out the hdi (down to the rivets) and had bought a paddle clutch but been mis-sold it as its an xud one, can i use a hdi pressure plate on the xud friction plate? And will it give enough grip as the xud paddle is skinnier

P.s stage 2 full torque
Justin_306DTurbo
306 Ph1 Dturbo Sedan
306 Ph1 Dturbo Estate (VNT)
Partner Ph1 (XUD Swap)
306 HDI Stage 3 Estate (RIP)
#2
Not, you need the correct kit, the xud diameter will be different
#3
Really :/ what if i did the gti6 flywheel conversion?
Justin_306DTurbo
306 Ph1 Dturbo Sedan
306 Ph1 Dturbo Estate (VNT)
Partner Ph1 (XUD Swap)
306 HDI Stage 3 Estate (RIP)
#4
Need to convert the box to run a xud clutch too
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#5
Ahhh, just looking at options for clutch as got screwed over with an xud one. So running this ceramic xud friction plate with a hdi pressure plate isnt an option??
How good are Luk clutches at holding stage 2 full torque?
Justin_306DTurbo
306 Ph1 Dturbo Sedan
306 Ph1 Dturbo Estate (VNT)
Partner Ph1 (XUD Swap)
306 HDI Stage 3 Estate (RIP)
#6
I'd go with a valeo I've held 250lbft on a xud luk clutch
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Team Doesn't own a 306
#7
Im 290lbft

Well according to whippy but when has that fella ever failed to deliver lol
Justin_306DTurbo
306 Ph1 Dturbo Sedan
306 Ph1 Dturbo Estate (VNT)
Partner Ph1 (XUD Swap)
306 HDI Stage 3 Estate (RIP)
#8
Mine held 250 no issue not sure what there rated to
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Team Doesn't own a 306
#9
Hmm can get a Luk tommorow from eurocarparts for £95, tempted to get that and fit it with the cg ceramic plate from the xud clutch, worst case scenario it dosnt hold and i end up having to put the luk friction plate in
Justin_306DTurbo
306 Ph1 Dturbo Sedan
306 Ph1 Dturbo Estate (VNT)
Partner Ph1 (XUD Swap)
306 HDI Stage 3 Estate (RIP)
#10
It wont work unless you convert the car and gearbox to use an xud clutch, send it back and get the right one if it was mis-sold?
#11
Can you explain to me why please? (Not saying your wrong but im new to clutches and trying to learn)
My plan was to get an oem clutch today and mix and match it with the ceramic paddle friction plate i have.
The friction plate is slightly smaller but all the paddles still make full contact with the flywheel and pressure plate, also though the footprint is reduced because of the smaller diameter the friction plates are much more grippier than an organic plate and has much better heat dispursing proerties.

Is there any reason beyond what ive looked at why this wouldnt work?
Justin_306DTurbo
306 Ph1 Dturbo Sedan
306 Ph1 Dturbo Estate (VNT)
Partner Ph1 (XUD Swap)
306 HDI Stage 3 Estate (RIP)
#12
Hdi is normal push type clutch and XUD is a pull type clutch, that's why you'd need to change lots of bits cos they work the opposite way
#13
If i was you id get a gti6 flywheel and xud box fork and use the clutch you have got Tongue
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#14
(19-04-2014, 06:24 AM)dr_jekyll Wrote: Can you explain to me why please? (Not saying your wrong but im new to clutches and trying to learn)
My plan was to get an oem clutch today and mix and match it with the ceramic paddle friction plate i have.
The friction plate is slightly smaller but all the paddles still make full contact with the flywheel and pressure plate, also though the footprint is reduced because of the smaller diameter the friction plates are much more grippier than an organic plate and has much better heat dispursing proerties.

Is there any reason beyond what ive looked at why this wouldnt work?

Even if you could get it to work it wouldnt hold the torque, the spring is weaker on the HDi clutch which is why it has a larger diameter friction plate, you need an xud pressure plate, gearbox fork, gearbox cable bracket, clutch cable and an xu flywheel if you want it to work because otherwise its nothing more than an expensive lashup
#15
Its in and an absolute animal Smile
Justin_306DTurbo
306 Ph1 Dturbo Sedan
306 Ph1 Dturbo Estate (VNT)
Partner Ph1 (XUD Swap)
306 HDI Stage 3 Estate (RIP)
#16
(19-04-2014, 10:53 PM)dr_jekyll Wrote: Its in and an absolute animal Smile

What clutch did you go for in the end?
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#17
Ermmm.. its a mix up lol, cg ceramic friction plate with a luk oen pressure plate and release bearing

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Justin_306DTurbo
306 Ph1 Dturbo Sedan
306 Ph1 Dturbo Estate (VNT)
Partner Ph1 (XUD Swap)
306 HDI Stage 3 Estate (RIP)
#18
Clutch is still going strong, nearly 30k on it now
Justin_306DTurbo
306 Ph1 Dturbo Sedan
306 Ph1 Dturbo Estate (VNT)
Partner Ph1 (XUD Swap)
306 HDI Stage 3 Estate (RIP)


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