What car next?

[Ollie]

Presuming a lot of yous are young drivers? I think of it as people pass the test in a small petrol then maybe there second car would be a d turbo. Well thats the way a lot of people do it here. I'm wondering what car you would get next? Whats the natural progression?

Dont get me wrong, i will always have a love for french scrap, i just fancy a change, maybe move up in the world.

I'm thinking 130 bora for a bit of hopefully trouble free driving? Even though they're boring ill probably end up with one. Its sort of an inbetween car im looking for whilst i save for an e39 530d.

What would you buy, not wanting to spend much more than 2k.

[Jenkosowls]

From the trends I've seen in here there's a few routes that people go and end up

306 - Astra - cry - 306
306 - vectra - moan - 306
306 - mx5 - drift - 306
306 - e46 - drift - 306
306 - a3 - pleased - 306
306 - golf - moan - 306

So yeah you'll come back to a 306

Personally I've only ever had pugs had a volvo 850 loved it but thirsty! Volvo has actually been the cheapest car to insure iv had. Had I'd got a derv I'd probably still have it. currently now in a berlingo

[Jake]

I went
306 hdi
306 dt
Renault 11
Saxo vtr
306 dt
MK 5 golf GTi.

I love my golf but would Deffo have another dt as a second car!

[THE_Liam]

I've gone...

Escort van
Fiat Uno
Citroen AX GTI
Alfa 75 V6
Rover 420 GSI
Vauxhall Frontera
Vauxhall Corsa 1.7D
306 Sedan DT
306 DT
Audi 80
106 GTI
VW Golf GTI mk3
Vauxhall Calibra
Skoda Octavia VRS
306 XRDT
306 DT

Just keep coming back to pugs. Nothing for me is as much fun as a DT with the same costs

[Piggy]

Bora is stupid expensive for a saloon golf. just buy a golf!

I went from a 1.6 16v Fiesta to a XR2i to a v6 Mivec FTO to a 1.6 16v Colt GTi, then couple ZetecS' mixed with superbikeness,
then I found derv and boost!

[cpikey316_]

Swedish!

Volvo or Saab! Saabs are dirt cheap now, and the petrol turbos are as tunable as a DT (with poorer MPG natch)

For me it went

306 - Primera - rusty - 306 - Saab -expensive - 306 - moan - Saab

[THE_Liam]

Swedish!

Volvo or Saab! Saabs are dirt cheap now, and the petrol turbos are as tunable as a DT (with poorer MPG natch)

For me it went

306 - Primera - rusty - 306 - Saab -expensive - 306 - moan - Saab

Mate of mine bought a 9000 for 400 quid, spent 500 quid on it, 400bhp. Good value in my book...

[Ed Doe]

Speak to Carlos or Dan! about owning boras. IIRC their ownership experience hasn't been completely trouble-free, and when VAGs go wrong, they aren't generally a cheap fix...

I can't really comment as my car progression was CitroenZX - 106 nad - 306 Dturbo - 306 GTi6 - 306GTi6 - Renaultsport Megane R26!

I'd still own another 306 though, but definitely only as a 2nd car/track car. And for me it would definitely be a GTi6. I think in a couple of years I may invest in a shitter to strip and track for lols.

Personally, if I were you I'd be more keen to keep saving for another year rather than spend the 2k on something like a Bora which may end up costing you more, and wont be IMO that great an ownership experience....

So yeah, that's about as much as I can meaningfully add to this thread!

[C.A.R.]

306 XS
306 GTi6
306 Cab
Mx5 Import
Celica 190
Focus Diesel
306 Hdi

We all end up back where we started!

[Pete]

Seat Torledo could be worth a look, A Bora without the badge tax.

[1616six]

escort
escort
106
almera
rover 416
106
ax
astra
ax
diablo 306 dt
clio
rover 220dt
cinquecento
206
blaze 306 dt
nial 306 dt
silver 306 dt
diablo 306dt
laguna
fiesta
astra
zx dt
astra
e46 coupe
306 hdi which became dt
SJ
Discovery
Vectra
306 cabby
306 hdi cabby


thats all i can remember, there's certainly been another 10 or so in between

[Curt]

1.8 306 Sedan
BMW 316
Golf GTi
306 DT
A3 1.8T
Golf GTi
A3 1.8T
306 GTi-6
BMW 330d
306 GTi-6
Mazda MX-5/GTi-6
A3 1.8T/MX-5

You won't find much love for a Bora or any VAG on here, but if you want one, go for it. For me, I don't end up coming back to the 306. I got my A3 back and I'm much happier

[Poodle]

3-series seem to be a popular way to go, e36 or 46. Depends what youre after really.

[Matt]

306 dt
306 1.6
306 1.6
306 hdi
306 dt
306 1.6
306 nad
306 xsi
306 Rallye
306 dt

[4WayDiablo]

306 1.4
306 DT
306 1.8
306 DT
306 DT

[Ollie]

Bora is stupid expensive for a saloon golf. just buy a golf!

I went from a 1.6 16v Fiesta to a XR2i to a v6 Mivec FTO to a 1.6 16v Colt GTi, then couple ZetecS' mixed with superbikeness,
then I found derv and boost!

I hate the shape of mk4 golfs to be honest, though i dont mind boras for some reason.

Also I'm only keen on petrols if they're rwd. Which as a student i cant afford to run.

Any love for the E39s? I think they're the ultimate diesel but i need to be spending about 3k on one which i dont ave at the minute.

[vlj]

Citroen AX 1l 'echo'
Citroen Xantia TD
Citroen AX GT
Citroen AX 1.4
306 XSi
306 DT
306 GTi
A3 1.8T
306 HDi
306 HDi Estate
306 GTi

---

That was just things that lasted more than a month

[amiek]

Citroen AX 1l 'echo'
Citroen Xantia TD
Citroen AX GT
Citroen AX 1.4
306 XSi
306 DT
306 GTi
A3 1.8T
306 HDi
306 HDi Estate
306 GTi

---

That was just things that lasted more than a month

you forget to mention that all bar the top three have been in the last year

[silverzx]

Obviously going from a super money saving XUD/HDi DT any car is going to seem like a shock to buy/insure/repair/modify/etc.

Might as well go nuts and get a petrol turbo RWD if you ask me!

Don't bother with N/A, it's old technology.

[aggyj17]

306 xnd
306 dturbo s
306 xsi ( with s16 engine)
306 dturbo (stop gap car while the xsi was off the road having work done to it)
205 dturbo with 1.9 engine (still building)

[silverzx]

Oh and for 2k you could get a very clean stage 1/2 S13 or a fairly tatty S14.

[Jake]

Oh and for 2k you could get a very clean stage 1/2 S13 or a fairly tatty S14.

Where? You seem to be about 2k below all the ones I have seen?

If you can show me a clean stage 1/2 s13 I'd be tempted to buy it myself.

[E_KEL95]

Oh and for 2k you could get a very clean stage 1/2 S13 or a fairly tatty S14.

A 2K S14a would be a complete dog from any ive seen, if goin petrol turbo far better saving money and buying a decent clear one

[Toms306]

306 1.4 Miami - Boring
306 1.4 Meridian - Broken
306 1.4 Meridian - Slow and ate gearboxes
306 1.8 Meridian - Reliable, good looking - thirsty as hell, had to go diesel!
MK4 Golf GT TDI 3 door - Reliable, good on fuel - not enough doors, poor spec list
MK4 Golf GT TDI 5 door - Good car...until I modded it for college project, broke it for parts when cams/lifters and clutch/DMF failed
106 NAD Zest 2 - Cheap as chips, good on fuel, a bugger to fix as everything was rusted and seized - only a stop gap so sold it on for what I paid
Vectra B 2.0 Petrol Auto - Nice leather interior - f*cked waterpump leaking all over the place, took it back a few hours later for a refund
Avensis 1.8 VVti - Not as thirsty as expected, slow, horrible and cheap inside
306 HDi Estate - Borrowed from Rowell, took some getting used to after the Golfs, slow, poor on fuel for the slowness, expensive to tax
306 HDi estate - Bought my own after giving Rowells back so the insurance price didn't rise - didn't like that one either lol
2006 Vectra C CTDI 150 - Pile of shite, broke before I even got it off the driveway, cheap and nasty inside, noisy, poor on fuel, does have decent spec and costs little to insure
306 HDi hatch - Bought as a breaker, been driving it for this week - realised I don't like them after having newer cars lol - its a laugh to rag around for a week, but no chance as a daily


So yeah - if you're anything like me, everything you buy will be shit!

[silverzx]

Oh and for 2k you could get a very clean stage 1/2 S13 or a fairly tatty S14.

Where? You seem to be about 2k below all the ones I have seen?

If you can show me a clean stage 1/2 s13 I'd be tempted to buy it myself.

They can be found, patience and dedicated searching is usually involved to find bargains! Just like any car really!

Even just looking over SXOC there is a couple worth a look:

Stage 2 '13 with Tax and test just sold - not tidy but cheap.

I have decided to put my kuro black 200sx s13 up for sale. It's a 1994 with 111k on the clock. The car was t boned but has not been repaired yet. I have still been using the car as a daily driver. The passenger side door doesnt open at the moment but With starting an apprenticeship today I realised I have neither the time or money to sort it out. Also the front hubs need replacing as the bearings have gone and it was cheaper to buy hubs. I have new complete hubs (not fitted) included in the sale. Relatively clean underneath. No rot. Minor surface rust. Other than slightly dented sils (not rotting) Clean for a uk in my opinion.

The car is mot'd and taxed till November 13

Stage 2 ca18 det.
T28 turbo
Manual boost controller
stainless steal exhaust
painted and polybushed, sand blasted subframe and arms.
25mm offset rack spacer
B.c racing coilovers
Fancy drift works steering arms for mega lock
Welded diff
Short shifter

Car is also fully stripped out in the back
currently sitting on 16" comps that were sprayed pink by a previous owner
Preface lift front bumper

Due to the work needed on this car I'm putting it up for £900ono
May px/swap (preferably looking of a practical relatively economical car)

S13 Still for sale.

1993 (L reg) Nissan 200SX (S13) 1.8L Turbo

Manual transmission

Gun Metal Grey – Good condition body / no rust

Standard interior – Very clean no rips or tears in seats

Tax until Nov 2013

MOT until May 2014

132,000 Miles

Full Nissan Service History up to 100k (Serviced by local garages/myself since)

HPI Clear

2 previous owners

Well looked after in terms of oil changes, servicing etc – Replaced bottom end bearings and fan belt, around 6,000 miles ago

All electrics work fine – lights, wipers, windows etc


Modifications

Pi Lowering springs (35mm)

Apex Performance short shifter

Bailey twin piston dump valve (currently off car but will include in sale)

Induction kit / air filter

De-cat pipe

Full system 3” stainless steel exhaust (with removable silencer) – 4” Tailpipe

Adjustable strut braces front and rear

Boost gauge

De-spoilered

De-badged

Yellow fog lights

I have owned the car for 7 and a half years and the reason I am selling it is because I barely drive it now! I’ve owned it since it had 118,000 miles on the clock. Car has never been raced/drifted on track and was bought completely standard. As you can see I’ve only put a few mods on it.

I did a compression test (wet and dry) around 3 months back and the results were fine which I believe means the piston rings and vales are OK. For a car that is 20 years old, it drives and looks great.


Points to mention

The car smokes very slightly for which I have been told is most likely the oil seals on the turbo. It still holds boost very well and drives OK. It happens so rarely that I hardly ever need to top up the oil. I ensure I warm up / cool down the turbo. I also have another turbo which I will supply with the car – no play in the shaft (T25 standard turbo).

Very rarely the engine runs a little lumpy on idle for a few seconds but usually drives OK after that. Car always starts first time without any struggle. I’ve been told it could be the idle control valve or coil packs which could do with replacing - This is a simple job.

Only last month someone reversed into my front bumper with a toe hook. The bumper did not crack but the paint did slightly. So to prevent it from peeling more, I have put a patch over it as seen in the pics.



Looking for £2195 OVNO. I know these cars are getting rarer by the day and therefore I am in no rush to sell it. There are very few out there left in decent condition and I believe this is one that will still last many, many years!

Full advert with pics on Gumtree :

http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-m...000/1027656960

S12 - something a bit different.

Some of you may have seen this car for sale about a year and a bit ago, when it was an auto and up in Yorkshire.

I bought it, and since have done quite a bit, and now it is back up for sale for the same price. I have just got a new job, and now have the money to buy a Z32 so the S12 has to go.

1989 (F) Nissan Silvia ZX Turbo 1.8 CA18ET

10 Months MOT, 5 Months Tax
Full Service History, as seen in pictures!
Huge number of Nissan receipts.

Recently Manual Converted
New Copper Mix S13 Clutch
New Slave & Master Cyl with braided line
Walbro 255 Fuel Pump, with high amp wiring.
Custom 2.75" Turbo Back Exhaust
Stack 30Psi Boost Gauge
"bren device" Boost Controller
Uprated Turbo, no play, with receipts.
Recent MAF replacement
Nearly new front tyres.

Alongside these headline items, I have removed and cleaned most of the car at one point or another, including dash (to do clutch pedal), intake and exhaust system. Much of the important pipework and wiring has been replaced with silicone/high grade where needed to keep the car running sweet and safe.

The shell is mostly rust free, it has some previous patches and one rear arch has been treated and sprayed but doesn't look quite perfect.

As for problems, it has one or two but nothing serious at all.
The idle is low when it is cold, as the regulator is stuck shut - so it can be a little lumpy until it warms up, I have the idle set to 850 to compensate.
The exhaust has snapped a bracket as sometimes knocks on the underside of the car, when it stops raining I will weld it back up!

Price is £1500, just as I bought it myself. I would ask more but these never get great money, I will be loosing more than £1500 at this price, but its not about making money! I don't have to sell quick, so the price is only a little wiggly.

[adamm306]

106 1.1 - fun first car
106 1.6 - gap car for work thirsty for a 1.6
306 dt - rust

[ozonehostile]

ive tried most cars but they all get scrapped to make way for another peugeot haha

im actually on my way out to buy my third one this year

[silverzx]

ive tried most cars but they all get scrapped to make way for another peugeot haha

im actually on my way out to buy my third one this year

I'm just glad your part of the club to share the experience. Late bloomer.

[Jake]

Oh and for 2k you could get a very clean stage 1/2 S13 or a fairly tatty S14.

Where? You seem to be about 2k below all the ones I have seen?

If you can show me a clean stage 1/2 s13 I'd be tempted to buy it myself.

They can be found, patience and dedicated searching is usually involved to find bargains! Just like any car really!

Even just looking over SXOC there is a couple worth a look:

Stage 2 '13 with Tax and test just sold - not tidy but cheap.

I have decided to put my kuro black 200sx s13 up for sale. It's a 1994 with 111k on the clock. The car was t boned but has not been repaired yet. I have still been using the car as a daily driver. The passenger side door doesnt open at the moment but With starting an apprenticeship today I realised I have neither the time or money to sort it out. Also the front hubs need replacing as the bearings have gone and it was cheaper to buy hubs. I have new complete hubs (not fitted) included in the sale. Relatively clean underneath. No rot. Minor surface rust. Other than slightly dented sils (not rotting) Clean for a uk in my opinion.

The car is mot'd and taxed till November 13

Stage 2 ca18 det.
T28 turbo
Manual boost controller
stainless steal exhaust
painted and polybushed, sand blasted subframe and arms.
25mm offset rack spacer
B.c racing coilovers
Fancy drift works steering arms for mega lock
Welded diff
Short shifter

Car is also fully stripped out in the back
currently sitting on 16" comps that were sprayed pink by a previous owner
Preface lift front bumper

Due to the work needed on this car I'm putting it up for £900ono
May px/swap (preferably looking of a practical relatively economical car)

S13 Still for sale.

1993 (L reg) Nissan 200SX (S13) 1.8L Turbo

Manual transmission

Gun Metal Grey – Good condition body / no rust

Standard interior – Very clean no rips or tears in seats

Tax until Nov 2013

MOT until May 2014

132,000 Miles

Full Nissan Service History up to 100k (Serviced by local garages/myself since)

HPI Clear

2 previous owners

Well looked after in terms of oil changes, servicing etc – Replaced bottom end bearings and fan belt, around 6,000 miles ago

All electrics work fine – lights, wipers, windows etc


Modifications

Pi Lowering springs (35mm)

Apex Performance short shifter

Bailey twin piston dump valve (currently off car but will include in sale)

Induction kit / air filter

De-cat pipe

Full system 3” stainless steel exhaust (with removable silencer) – 4” Tailpipe

Adjustable strut braces front and rear

Boost gauge

De-spoilered

De-badged

Yellow fog lights

I have owned the car for 7 and a half years and the reason I am selling it is because I barely drive it now! I’ve owned it since it had 118,000 miles on the clock. Car has never been raced/drifted on track and was bought completely standard. As you can see I’ve only put a few mods on it.

I did a compression test (wet and dry) around 3 months back and the results were fine which I believe means the piston rings and vales are OK. For a car that is 20 years old, it drives and looks great.


Points to mention

The car smokes very slightly for which I have been told is most likely the oil seals on the turbo. It still holds boost very well and drives OK. It happens so rarely that I hardly ever need to top up the oil. I ensure I warm up / cool down the turbo. I also have another turbo which I will supply with the car – no play in the shaft (T25 standard turbo).

Very rarely the engine runs a little lumpy on idle for a few seconds but usually drives OK after that. Car always starts first time without any struggle. I’ve been told it could be the idle control valve or coil packs which could do with replacing - This is a simple job.

Only last month someone reversed into my front bumper with a toe hook. The bumper did not crack but the paint did slightly. So to prevent it from peeling more, I have put a patch over it as seen in the pics.



Looking for £2195 OVNO. I know these cars are getting rarer by the day and therefore I am in no rush to sell it. There are very few out there left in decent condition and I believe this is one that will still last many, many years!

Full advert with pics on Gumtree :

http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-m...000/1027656960

S12 - something a bit different.

Some of you may have seen this car for sale about a year and a bit ago, when it was an auto and up in Yorkshire.

I bought it, and since have done quite a bit, and now it is back up for sale for the same price. I have just got a new job, and now have the money to buy a Z32 so the S12 has to go.

1989 (F) Nissan Silvia ZX Turbo 1.8 CA18ET

10 Months MOT, 5 Months Tax
Full Service History, as seen in pictures!
Huge number of Nissan receipts.

Recently Manual Converted
New Copper Mix S13 Clutch
New Slave & Master Cyl with braided line
Walbro 255 Fuel Pump, with high amp wiring.
Custom 2.75" Turbo Back Exhaust
Stack 30Psi Boost Gauge
"bren device" Boost Controller
Uprated Turbo, no play, with receipts.
Recent MAF replacement
Nearly new front tyres.

Alongside these headline items, I have removed and cleaned most of the car at one point or another, including dash (to do clutch pedal), intake and exhaust system. Much of the important pipework and wiring has been replaced with silicone/high grade where needed to keep the car running sweet and safe.

The shell is mostly rust free, it has some previous patches and one rear arch has been treated and sprayed but doesn't look quite perfect.

As for problems, it has one or two but nothing serious at all.
The idle is low when it is cold, as the regulator is stuck shut - so it can be a little lumpy until it warms up, I have the idle set to 850 to compensate.
The exhaust has snapped a bracket as sometimes knocks on the underside of the car, when it stops raining I will weld it back up!

Price is £1500, just as I bought it myself. I would ask more but these never get great money, I will be loosing more than £1500 at this price, but its not about making money! I don't have to sell quick, so the price is only a little wiggly.

You have enlightened me!

Damn it.. I really want one now!

[procta]

I've gone...
Lada Riva saloon
Escort van
Fiat Uno
Trabant
Citroen AX GTI
Alfa 75 V6
Rover 420 GSI
Rover city
Vauxhall Nova
Vauxhall Frontera
Vauxhall Corsa 1.7D
306 Sedan DT
Fiat 500
Reliant robin
Reliant fox
306 DT
Austin maxi
Lada Niva
Austin Princess
Lada Riva estate
Audi 80
106 GTI
VW Golf GTI mk3
Vauxhall Calibra
Skoda Octavia VRS
306 XRDT
306 DT

Just keep coming back to pugs. Lada Riva estate for me is as much fun as a DT with the same costs

you have practically owned everything liam!