Fitting challengers

[kentiiboii]

Challengers and araines do looks the mutts nuts on 306 suit then well. But they're too common now that's why I have Aidels . I check my nuts every week takes few seconds. .

[kingy]

takes me longer than that kent and i do it more than once a week.

[Frosty]

Just need to fit a good set local to me

[kentiiboii]

takes me longer than that kent and i do it more than once a week.

Well takes a few minutes really if not ten after taking my centre caps of without scratching them :p. but it's well worth just a quick check


Oh yeah thanks to you Kingy I'm out tonight drinking desperado :p

[kingy]

desperado is the new stella my friend.

[kentiiboii]

Lol well I wasn't drinking koppaberg £4 a bottle :/

[Dum-Dum]

Sorry im a little late to this thread. As kentiiboii said speak to speedshack in west drayton and theyll sort out all the spacers/nuts/bolts/studs youll need for about £100-£130 depending on what you want.

Steve at speedshack spent a long time with me measuring up what was perfect for a set of these wheels.


Technically you need 13mm spacers ad the 306 uses ET18 wheels and the challengers are ET31 so 31-18=13
15mm spacers are the easiest to get hold of and anything smaller just looks wrong but 20 or 25mm spacers can look pretty awesome.


As for the stud conversion, they have to go into the hub by 8-9 turns, its a 1.25mm thread pitch so 10-12mm plus the width of the spacer plus the thickenss of the wheel plus going into the nut by 8-9 turns.

Alot of us are using "Toyota style" wheelnuts as they are a better fit than pug nuts and come with a harder to round off 21mm head.

Mine were a special order so they had the pug M12x1.25 thread machined in them but everyone else uses the toyota M12 x 1.5 thread but this means you have to use studs that have a pug thread at 1 end and toyota at the other.



The benefit of a stud conversion is it makes it alot easier to get the wheels on and off as they sit on the studs and dont fall off when you reach for a wheel bolt. It also means if you f*ck a thread the chances are itll be the stud (thats easy to change) and not the hub itself that isnt so easy to swap.





Hope that clears everything up.

[kentiiboii]

And there he is clearing everything up

[Frosty]

Thanks for your help everyone!! I think I'm going to go for the 1s that bolt to the hubs and then the wheels bolt to the spacers

[cwspellowe]

.cant stand wheels sat half a mile in the archs!

What about wheels sat half a mile OUT the arches?

[darrenjlobb]

.cant stand wheels sat half a mile in the archs!

What about wheels sat half a mile OUT the arches?

Well then the terms epic, and win, come together, to make EPIC WIN!

[Atterz]

I used to run mine with 5mm spacers and stud conversion, but looked pants imo, so ended up spacing it 20mm front and back, the spacers bolt to the hub with new bolts, and the wheels bolt to the spacer with OEM bolts, much easier /safer, and looks much more win spaced out me thinks!

Shoot me if im wrong but i think the reason we need to run spacers with these wheels is to adjust the offset back to standard 306 specs, which is around ET18. Therefore it would improve handling to have the spacers there as increasing or decreasing the offset either increases or decreases the scrub radius, which can cause the car to track the road.

This may be complete pish but im sure im on the right lines .

Also, im not sure if anyone else has noticed but it seems the heavier the wheel the less likely the car is to track the road due to bumps etc, i guess its all to do with inertia, as my car tracks the road quite badly on PR1.2s, not sure if anyone else has the same issue?

[Frosty]

i want my wheels to look good in the archs. i dont want them to far in or to far out. what size spacers should i use? 15mm or 20mm??

[darrenjlobb]

Hm well with 20mm spacers they deffo sit further out than stock wheels, but then are a tad wider, if you want easy id go 15....20 needed some arch work on mine, but looks the nuts imo, and 100% handles better like that....

[kentiiboii]

These are same fitment as challengers as they're off 307's. They're on 15mm. Front sits perfect IMO back could possible do with another 5mm but then I'd have to think about rolling arches as they'll be rather close.
Fronts around 40-50mm drop and rears around 60mm.
Hope it helps.

[Frosty]

My car is standard high so I shouldn't need to roll the arches or anything. Though the back axle on my car seems lower than most standards for some reason. I thinking of dropping the front maybe but only like 20/30mm

[kentiiboii]

I think if I was to go much lower with mine on 17s would look daft. I'm refurbing my second set of Aidels when summer actually arrives and going for 195/45 tyres so I have a tiny stretch.

[Tyronnster]

Looking at a set

205/40/17 et28

Will these go on

[Frosty]

Looking at a set

205/40/17 et28

Will these go on

If there challengers they will need spacers

[Tyronnster]

Will rep when on pc

[Frosty]

Ok cheers. I think most people go for either 15mm or 20mm. I think i will prob be going for 20mm spacers

Anyone know if i will need to do any arch work if i use 20mm spacers? Car is at standard height at the moment

[Tyronnster]

Just picked up a set gonna test fit tomox

[londondan86]

15mm on the front, 20 on the rear. I had to bend in the inner lip on the rear arch to stop it scrubbing, now fit perfectly.

[Frosty]

15mm on the front, 20 on the rear. I had to bend in the inner lip on the rear arch to stop it scrubbing, now fit perfectly.

Is that lowered? If so how much by?

[padge]

all on 20mm spacers, had to have rear arches rolled, 60mm drop front and about 70mm rear

[Frosty]

Ok cheers for that. So the front arches are fine and don't need to be rolled? That car looks sweet!!

[Tyronnster]

Seen that car on FB group for turbo diesels

[padge]

There both my old dturbos, the one at the top scraped on the front, one with white wheeels had a little bit of arch work on front but nowhere near as much as the rears

[Tyronnster]

Is this your group

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Pug-306-D...4515284019

[padge]

no, they just ask/post random pics thats all.