08-12-2014, 03:06 PM
This weekend my passat went back on the road and the 306 took a spot on the retirement driveway.
The poor bugger has been getting flogged as a daily the past few months but the lack of heaters has been rather uncomfortable and thank god I've finally sorted the passat just as the really cold weather starts
So till this project is finished or meets a major headache, I'll be driving the passat.
On the 306 the IP is leaking a little, the crank?? is leaking oil too now as well. It's a PITA on veg in the morning and either the HG is gone, or there is an air leak that wont come out.
The matrix went and the previous owner bypassed it. Having read a thread here on flow through the matrix I reduced the size of the bypass significantly to hopefully help it out. it uses a little water and pressurises the heck out of the coolant system. But it hasn't gotten any wore since I bought it so I'll find out eventually when the engine (or a spare) is torn down.
So. I wanted a Honda turbo diesel for quite a while.
Why ? I like Honda's.
I was going to convert a CRX to TD but failed to find the right donor car, then bought a "good one" fell out of love with it and sold it.
But at one point realised that it would be epic as a daily driver but no use for the family.
Then I had a civic saloon (sedan) kicking around as it came back to me from a loan to family, but really I needed an estate.
Sold the sedan couple of weekends ago as it happens.
Then I remembered the Accord Aerodeck. Standard it comes with a large 2.2 4 pot in this trim, tho it's as smooth as a V6. Featuring things such as active engine mounts and balancer shafts. Leather interior, cruise, electric driver seat, etc.
Generally it's overlooked by the Euro Honda community as it's a large capacity engine, and drinks heavily but many are modded in the USA.
Whilst in the same years (94-98) Honda made the Accord saloon with a rare diesel, it's actually a Rover lump (and the Rover 600 is basically an Accord or vice versa) and the saloon is a completely different car despite being the same name and year.
The aerodeck designed and built in the USA ! - it's got USA quirks.
The saloon was a Rover/Honda partnership.
Since I run veg oil, the later accords with the CDTI engine I didn't want to touch. They can be picky about diesel fuel. Plus they are too small in the back end for load capacity.
So I figured I'd fit the best mech TD engine I could find to the accord.
Tom's antics in his ZX more than convinced me that PSA power was the way forward.
So yes, I'm going to try and fit a XUD into a Honda Accord Aerodeck.
So here we sit today:
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Driveway cleared of other cars, all projects out of the way (bar one on the house) and ready to take the engine and box out of the accord.
306 in the background looking sorry for itself, hopefully I'll be offering it's engine up to the accord some time over xmas.
Measurements so far suggest that it should fit, but I generally find you've got to try it to find out for sure. Things can be moved, cut, bent or rebuilt if tis' snug.
The point of no return is when I have to remove the engine mounts from the accord to get the XUD engine in the bay. I'm hoping I can get it in at a jaunty angle and prove there is room, else I'll drill the spot welds off in case they need to go back on again to put the accord back to stock
I expect with several other commitments and another Honda project on going, I'll be ready for the road in May with a fairly stock setup (just engine swap, stock wheels, suspension, brakes, etc)
FMIC is required but loads of room. Stock rad is huge, will fit a header tank high up - have space.
PAS is easy, A/C is going to be more tricky but I want A/C.
I believe the turbo will need to go over the gearbox. If it doesn't then I'll keep the T2 that is fitted for now where it is.
If it does then I'll just go straight to having a VNT and sort out the aurduino.
Wiring should be straight forward. Imobilisor stuff needs to come out. Accord clocks will be used. Need electronic speed reader.
This is an auto so have to convert to manual. Luckily the firewall is pre marked uses prelude parts. but I need a cable shifter and hyrdo clutch setup on the gearbox.
Biggest worry is the driveshafts, mainly cos I've never done a hybrid marque drive shaft previously (hybrid Honda sure...).
The intention is that this will replace the passat as the daily driver.
It's going to be sensible power, usable and reliable. Not balls out. 20K miles /year.
I might keep a 306 around as a backup when that day comes.
The poor bugger has been getting flogged as a daily the past few months but the lack of heaters has been rather uncomfortable and thank god I've finally sorted the passat just as the really cold weather starts
So till this project is finished or meets a major headache, I'll be driving the passat.
On the 306 the IP is leaking a little, the crank?? is leaking oil too now as well. It's a PITA on veg in the morning and either the HG is gone, or there is an air leak that wont come out.
The matrix went and the previous owner bypassed it. Having read a thread here on flow through the matrix I reduced the size of the bypass significantly to hopefully help it out. it uses a little water and pressurises the heck out of the coolant system. But it hasn't gotten any wore since I bought it so I'll find out eventually when the engine (or a spare) is torn down.
So. I wanted a Honda turbo diesel for quite a while.
Why ? I like Honda's.
I was going to convert a CRX to TD but failed to find the right donor car, then bought a "good one" fell out of love with it and sold it.
But at one point realised that it would be epic as a daily driver but no use for the family.
Then I had a civic saloon (sedan) kicking around as it came back to me from a loan to family, but really I needed an estate.
Sold the sedan couple of weekends ago as it happens.
Then I remembered the Accord Aerodeck. Standard it comes with a large 2.2 4 pot in this trim, tho it's as smooth as a V6. Featuring things such as active engine mounts and balancer shafts. Leather interior, cruise, electric driver seat, etc.
Generally it's overlooked by the Euro Honda community as it's a large capacity engine, and drinks heavily but many are modded in the USA.
Whilst in the same years (94-98) Honda made the Accord saloon with a rare diesel, it's actually a Rover lump (and the Rover 600 is basically an Accord or vice versa) and the saloon is a completely different car despite being the same name and year.
The aerodeck designed and built in the USA ! - it's got USA quirks.
The saloon was a Rover/Honda partnership.
Since I run veg oil, the later accords with the CDTI engine I didn't want to touch. They can be picky about diesel fuel. Plus they are too small in the back end for load capacity.
So I figured I'd fit the best mech TD engine I could find to the accord.
Tom's antics in his ZX more than convinced me that PSA power was the way forward.
So yes, I'm going to try and fit a XUD into a Honda Accord Aerodeck.
So here we sit today:
Driveway cleared of other cars, all projects out of the way (bar one on the house) and ready to take the engine and box out of the accord.
306 in the background looking sorry for itself, hopefully I'll be offering it's engine up to the accord some time over xmas.
Measurements so far suggest that it should fit, but I generally find you've got to try it to find out for sure. Things can be moved, cut, bent or rebuilt if tis' snug.
The point of no return is when I have to remove the engine mounts from the accord to get the XUD engine in the bay. I'm hoping I can get it in at a jaunty angle and prove there is room, else I'll drill the spot welds off in case they need to go back on again to put the accord back to stock
I expect with several other commitments and another Honda project on going, I'll be ready for the road in May with a fairly stock setup (just engine swap, stock wheels, suspension, brakes, etc)
FMIC is required but loads of room. Stock rad is huge, will fit a header tank high up - have space.
PAS is easy, A/C is going to be more tricky but I want A/C.
I believe the turbo will need to go over the gearbox. If it doesn't then I'll keep the T2 that is fitted for now where it is.
If it does then I'll just go straight to having a VNT and sort out the aurduino.
Wiring should be straight forward. Imobilisor stuff needs to come out. Accord clocks will be used. Need electronic speed reader.
This is an auto so have to convert to manual. Luckily the firewall is pre marked
uses prelude parts. but I need a cable shifter and hyrdo clutch setup on the gearbox.Biggest worry is the driveshafts, mainly cos I've never done a hybrid marque drive shaft previously (hybrid Honda sure...).
The intention is that this will replace the passat as the daily driver.
It's going to be sensible power, usable and reliable. Not balls out. 20K miles /year.
I might keep a 306 around as a backup when that day comes.