Newer Diesels...

[Toms306]

2.0 170 PD's are still out of budget tbh, it was the 140 I was looking at. Hadn't heard about the oil chains though, might have to look into that!

Hmm, I keep reading the same about the oil in the 1.6s, and you obviously cant tell by looking whether its been serviced on time with the right stuff of not. Seems a bit daft to make an engine so delicate it cant cope with a bit of human error these days. Really is a shame because they're in the £30 tax with a good mpg book figure as well!

Sounds like the 2.0 16v is the best for reliability then, but is in a high tax band iirc and less mpg book figures as well...how hard can it be to make an eco car reliable!



Driving position cant be much worse than a 307, they really are awful, seems to be a Peugeot thing tbh!

DMF and clutch at 70k is a bit worrying though, was the same on the Vectra, mine had one at 75k, and quite a few did when I was looking at the time. I know I moan about the PD Golf one failing but that had done 130k lol.

There are actually quite a few without DPFs even up to about 6 years old....but as in the OP, I'm not even sure if I should be worried about those given my driving style...

320d's are nice, but the parts prices put me off should something major fail.... Especially if its a dealer only part.

Its not human error, its laziness, complacency and mainly greed. not forking out the extra for the right oil, even seen problems with these engines serviced by the main dealer, seen another case where a transit engine failed and when brought to the ford dealer it came back as not covered as wrong oil was used, the customer promptly produced receipts for every oil change supplied by same dealer and they eventually had to replace it.

Honestly if i were you id stay well away from bmws, very expensive to repair, friends old e46 needed 1000 spent on suspension bushes each test time.

Thought about a little seat ibiza? Mother got an 08 1.4tdi ecomotive one for 2700 last year, 99g/km so free road tax and easily does 60 mpg, ride isnt bad either, even on our irish roads!!
And on motorways it sits at 100mph easy while only doing 3k rpm

I have thought of Ibiza's/Polos with the 1.4 TDi, though it's not an engine I know anything about! There's a Polo TDi Sport near me which looks alright, tempted to look at but seems expensive for what it is, theres also a 207 with a 1.4HDi I think at the same place, not sure what the ride on either of those is like though. Also not sure what their midrange torque will be like.

And I don't do 100 cos that's naughty. 99 is more than enough.

not mine, but im looking into getting one for my brother. Doesn't need to be fast. It fits everything else.. and fairly cheap

I'm not looking for fast, but 15 seconds to 60 is dangerously slow imo tbh! I'd call anything under about 7 fast. 10-12 about 'sensible' compromise for economy and
B road overtakes.

How many miles do you actually do Tom?

I'm just trying to figure out if you would be better off with a lower-emissions petrol car. Less to go wrong, cheaper tax, cheaper servicing and slightly increased fuel costs.

Sod all because the HDi costs too much to run.

Used to easily do 12-15k a year, which I would if I was working (the hopeful eventual outcome again) but right now its probably less than 6k. I try and limit it to a tenner a week but it always ends up more, and as said that's really limited with just 2 round trips to town and one to Nans.

The difference between 50mpg and 65mpg is actually very noticeable even at that low mileage....hence the 107!

I would be better off with a small petrol supermini than a midsize diesel, that's a given, but my stomach cant deal with them!