23-06-2016, 03:30 PM
(23-06-2016, 02:14 PM)welshpug Wrote: Because the NHS has been screwed over, my employer is relying even heavier on EU sourced funding as the NHS budgets have been severely cut. £350 million per week to Brussels, £350 million of which could be funding our NHS.
If we leave, they'll screw the NHS even more, and we'll lose the eu funding, basically I'd be screwed. See above
As for the arguments put forward by the immigrant haters. It's not about hate or racism, it's about control. Look at the country. Net migration is 300k, 600k enter the UK each year, 300K leave. How's that gonna work if it continues?
Fishing destroyed, it destroyed itself. How? We have quotas, so once they're hit our fishermen have to watch other countries sail into our waters and fish it. That works doesn't it?
Immigrants are bad? , yeah, the doctors shortages, NHS England is propped up by 10% of its doctors being foreign. No-one is saying that, skilled immigration is fantastic, we absolutely need it. What we don't need is people that come to the country purely to exploit our benefit system to send the money elsewhere. I am absolutely up for welcoming foreign nationals into the country, in fact I'm part Polish. What I don't agree with is the fraud that takes place both in terms of benefits and earnings. I can't find it now but I read on another forum a discussion that explained that currently an individual can come to the UK, earn, and if they then leave again within X amount of time they can then claim that tax back. So if you play it right you can work tax free too.
I don't know enough about everything you've said to write educated replies so I've picked a couple of bits I know about.
I genuinely think it's gonna be a very close call, my bets are on a 58-42 to remain within the EU.
Personally I think the country will remain broken regardless of the outcome of today. My father in law is a constituency leader within a political group so I keep my views in terms of the general election very private as I simply will not be scare mongered or influenced (I don't vote for the party he represents BTW)
Lets hope either way the country can move on and improve, in all honesty I'm not overly fussed which way it goes today as long as some good comes out of it.