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Accord Aerodeck XUDT
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Had a bit of illness over xmas. Typical. I seem to get it every year and not drink related.
Still new years resolution of no alcohol means more time for working on cars....

Easy come.... easy go.... Smile
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Bless Honda for designing teh bonnet to make engine swaps easier Smile

Enough space ??
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Worth a shot:
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Trying again after removing more bits - the brace under the sump hits and the rear mount was in the way too (no surprise, I was just too eager)
Note the recess for the Honda diff on the left side of the cross member. I will have to replicate this on the right side to clear the PUG box.
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Will need to chop this off and move the engine/box over about 20mm to the left so it's in teh middle of teh bay.
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Clearance height wise looks good, bear in mind it needs to be tilted backwards a few degrees. I couldn't do this on the crane at the time, but it needs to happen to replicate the PUG bay.
Need to buy some bits to help mock that up.
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Test fit of the drive shaft as they are smaller enough to fit through the Accord hubs. I will need to go for custom shafts as the accord is a single long shaft from pass side to gearbox. Some Hondas are, some aren't. Meh, unlucky and also surprised this one doesn't have a 1/2 shaft.
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Shot of teh biggest issue. The turbo needs to go through this rear cross member and it cannot as the steering rack is there.
I figured this was going to be a problem, but on initial fit it was looking good and I was dumb enough to get my hopes up - till I remember I forgot to tilt the engine backwards Smile doh! Smile
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So deffo need turbo over the gearbox.
But there is so much space in the bay left over that I should be able to go for the swirl pot and full size battery in the bay plus room to swing a cat.

A shot of the engine mount in teh last pic.
Active engine mount. Gets firmer controlled by the ECU in relation to engine speed and load to make teh ride more comfortable.
I'm going to see if I can find a way to reuse this...
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As a lower mount might be difficult, with the turbo removed I'll investigate options on a rear upper mount... I vaguely heard something about a drive shaft holder of a difference design that didn't have the lower mount integral ??

Issues:

1) gearbox - hydro/cables - but I knew this of course.
2) custom shafts - I'll strip the boots off and check, but I'm pretty sure I've got length issues anyway and would need to find another Honda drv side shaft regardless.
3) turbo re-routing and god only knows where/how to run the downpipe...
4) lower mount / rear mount - cannot easily replicate PUG setup
5) AUX setup. cannot run the PAS pump in it's stock location. needs to be higher up. Plus need to add/run A/C pump too.

Any hints and tips on the last item most welcome please. I think the PH2 with A/C have a different setup is that right ?
There is loads of room in front of the engine to accommodate.
http://306oc.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=25747
So the PAS pump is in the same/similar location.
Well, Anyone got a A/C pump and bracket? - hoses ideally too.


I'll have to run a PUG A/C compressor I think, well I need to check engine rotation first, but either way I need new lines making up (easy enough).
I've left teh Honda pump connected and out of teh way so can worry about it eventually. So much room in the front of the bay. - you can barely see it in teh top shot in front of teh front cross member!!
Unfortunately all the room is in teh front of teh bay. If the turbo had been on the front of teh engine I'd be laughing. I could stick 4 of them in front of it...
With the engine tilted backwards it's very tight behind it. Least there wont be any weight in front of teh wheels Smile

PAS I might as well just get a new high pressure line made from teh PUG pump to the rack. The Honda pump is on the right side of teh engine, the pug on the left, but teh rack input is on the left, so it'd be silly to extend teh Honda one. Just start over.

Given the size of the engine and box that came out, even if it's mainly ally (ally block) I think I've saved some weight here too with this swap.
Always a good thing.
I'll take a bet with myself that it's around 20Kg less weight saved. Going to borrow another scale so I can weigh in both swaps and see the difference.

Answering own question...
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Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by nominous - 08-12-2014, 03:06 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by Eeyore - 08-12-2014, 04:10 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by zx_volcane - 08-12-2014, 04:25 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by nominous - 08-12-2014, 04:27 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by procta - 08-12-2014, 04:56 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by nominous - 08-12-2014, 05:32 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by procta - 08-12-2014, 05:42 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by Piggy - 08-12-2014, 05:45 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by nominous - 08-12-2014, 06:07 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by procta - 08-12-2014, 06:13 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by nominous - 09-12-2014, 05:31 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by Poodle - 12-12-2014, 07:21 AM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by nominous - 12-12-2014, 10:54 AM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by nominous - 15-12-2014, 11:18 AM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by 7057sam - 16-12-2014, 01:34 AM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by nominous - 16-12-2014, 08:59 AM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by nominous - 25-12-2014, 06:53 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by Paul_13 - 25-12-2014, 07:12 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by procta - 25-12-2014, 08:30 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by nominous - 25-12-2014, 10:04 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by procta - 25-12-2014, 10:30 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by Piggy - 25-12-2014, 10:23 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by mr_fish - 29-12-2014, 09:07 AM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by nominous - 05-01-2015, 12:45 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by nominous - 05-01-2015, 01:16 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by nominous - 13-01-2015, 10:27 AM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by procta - 13-01-2015, 11:18 AM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by 7057sam - 13-01-2015, 01:48 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by nominous - 14-01-2015, 09:21 AM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by Poodle - 14-01-2015, 04:35 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by nominous - 14-01-2015, 05:22 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by nominous - 21-01-2015, 12:53 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by procta - 21-01-2015, 06:25 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by nominous - 22-01-2015, 09:32 AM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by procta - 28-01-2015, 01:51 PM
RE: Accord Aerodeck XUDT - by nominous - 28-01-2015, 05:42 PM

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