29-11-2014, 07:54 AM
I despise clio 172's for the fly by wire throttle delay.. My HDi doesnt seem so bad compared to them but i have to agree with ruan somewhat about all modern diesels feel this way.
Other reasons i despise XUD's are:
I hate waiting for glowplugs.
I HATE HATE HATE the shitty starting and general chugging / clanging that you get from cold starting an XUD guaranteed.
More on the car side of things:
Shitty 247mm front brakes on most.
16mm balljoints & hubs.
Drum rear beams.
Seriously dated interior (although bigger bottom glovebox & upper glovebox are win)
Granted all these things can be improved but then that defeats the object of a cheap car if your throwing money at it...
Also to make an XUD RELIABLY tuned you pretty much need to change the following:
Turbo
Conrods
Headstuds
Pump
So in essence you have to change half the engine before it can be tuned somewhat reliably, and then you still have to do hot & cold laps on track because of the piss poor efficiency of the cooling system no matter how well maintained it is.
With a hdi its a simple remap & exhaust system to see the same 130ish bhp...
End of the day its personal preference and theres still alot of XUD's that i have a hearty respect for! The sound of them rinsing up prescott with massive VNT blowers is incredible.
But all my experience with them and HDi's makes me lean solidly towards a HDi, only reason i would change mine is if i found one on a Y reg for the cheaper tax!
Other reasons i despise XUD's are:
I hate waiting for glowplugs.
I HATE HATE HATE the shitty starting and general chugging / clanging that you get from cold starting an XUD guaranteed.
More on the car side of things:
Shitty 247mm front brakes on most.
16mm balljoints & hubs.
Drum rear beams.
Seriously dated interior (although bigger bottom glovebox & upper glovebox are win)
Granted all these things can be improved but then that defeats the object of a cheap car if your throwing money at it...
Also to make an XUD RELIABLY tuned you pretty much need to change the following:
Turbo
Conrods
Headstuds
Pump
So in essence you have to change half the engine before it can be tuned somewhat reliably, and then you still have to do hot & cold laps on track because of the piss poor efficiency of the cooling system no matter how well maintained it is.
With a hdi its a simple remap & exhaust system to see the same 130ish bhp...
End of the day its personal preference and theres still alot of XUD's that i have a hearty respect for! The sound of them rinsing up prescott with massive VNT blowers is incredible.
But all my experience with them and HDi's makes me lean solidly towards a HDi, only reason i would change mine is if i found one on a Y reg for the cheaper tax!