15-03-2012, 03:10 PM
Because if you want the car low, you need a hard spring, yes the springs might be stiffer than other setups, but that doesn't mean they're stiff enough to support the car for all the people that keep winding them down 80-100mm....
Besides, the harshness isn't from the springs as such, it's the valving snapping open + shut + friction from the rubber piston seals.
Measure the speed difference on the track wouldn't tell you anything about the adjustability of the setup, it's not just about peak grip, it's about what you can do with the car over transients such as turn in and over kerbing, how it behaves when you hit a bump in the middle of the corner, the feedback they give the driver, and even how they cope with the chassis control past the limit if you get it wrong - often find the stiff, harsh setups do well on track if it's smooth, but are terrible if you go kerb-hopping, and if you overcook it slightly they make it much harder to catch the car.
And if you like bumpy b-roads they often fire the arse end upwards at speed...
Okay, my car's high, but the ride on my setup is as comfortable as standard - the only thing that really intrudes is on rough roads where you get patter noise from the solid rear beam and wishbones, understandable given that there's no rubber left in the suspension - and some from the brake discs as they're fully floating - but, it's still comfortable.
However, I'd bet a car on TA/Racelands slammed to the floor would generate as much or more peak grip in the middle of a corner than mine on a smooth track. Add some changable conditions, rain, or some kerbs that can be run over for a better line such as at oulton though, and it wouldn't bother my setup at all.
Besides, the harshness isn't from the springs as such, it's the valving snapping open + shut + friction from the rubber piston seals.
Measure the speed difference on the track wouldn't tell you anything about the adjustability of the setup, it's not just about peak grip, it's about what you can do with the car over transients such as turn in and over kerbing, how it behaves when you hit a bump in the middle of the corner, the feedback they give the driver, and even how they cope with the chassis control past the limit if you get it wrong - often find the stiff, harsh setups do well on track if it's smooth, but are terrible if you go kerb-hopping, and if you overcook it slightly they make it much harder to catch the car.
And if you like bumpy b-roads they often fire the arse end upwards at speed...
Okay, my car's high, but the ride on my setup is as comfortable as standard - the only thing that really intrudes is on rough roads where you get patter noise from the solid rear beam and wishbones, understandable given that there's no rubber left in the suspension - and some from the brake discs as they're fully floating - but, it's still comfortable.
However, I'd bet a car on TA/Racelands slammed to the floor would generate as much or more peak grip in the middle of a corner than mine on a smooth track. Add some changable conditions, rain, or some kerbs that can be run over for a better line such as at oulton though, and it wouldn't bother my setup at all.
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