New Conservative driving proposals

[Niall]

Maybe if you looked past the end of your nose, you would realise that yes most people will agree with you when saying if young idiots want to kill them selves then so be it but what about the other people they harm? What about the old woman they kill when they mount the pavement because they think they can drive fast? What about the guy on his way to work who ends up trapped in his car because some idiotic young driver has smashed him into a tree?
Yes, it probably would be good if some of these young people hurt them selves. Thats called natural selection. Hopefully a process that will find you and people like you soon enough.

Why would natural selection "find me"? I am the opposite of said young drivers I know you don't like me (don't worry it's mutual) but that's somewhat harsh But yeah I was referring to the "yoofs" who crash into inanimate objects, not who run people over and generally maim.

Anyway, there are two issues here. First is, people at 17 are not mature enough to take full responsibility of their actions on the road. Thats not something that can be taught. Thats just something that comes with getting older. The second is the level of instruction and testing before you can use the roads. We have one of the easiest driving tests in Europe and yet we also have some of the most congested roads in Europe. IMO, a recipe for disaster which we are heading for. Clearly your not one of these people that can take responsibility for their actions on the road otherwise you wouldn't be scared of the thought of an extended driving test. Its people like you that drive like morons and keep everyones insurance premiums high.
Oh and driving on the motorway might seem easy but clearly its not for the majority. I spend most of my days on motorways and the levels of stupidity from people, old, young and everything in between is quite frankly ridiculous.

You are making a blanket statement about maturity at 17, you don't have any real evidence apart from anecdotal evidence from your experiences and others' experiences. Which is your own fault if you drove like an idiot when you were 17 or 18.

Yes your right i am making a blanket statement. There is exceptions to this statement but generally, 17 year olds are not as mature as they think they are and im sure most will realise they were guilty of that when they look back.
I do have evidence. as Kent quite rightly said, its quite a well known statistic that 8/10 will crash their car in their first year which is going to be down to two things. Immaturity (being pressured by mates in a car to do stupid things) and lack of experience. Both of which can be changed by introducing more teaching, testing and potentially a curfew or similar.

Secondly, I think the driving test is hard for the wrong reasons. For instance, why do you fail if you touch the kerb on reversing round the corner? How stupid is that?

How stupid is that? How stupid are you? If you cant perform a simple manoeuvre at a slow speed, your not prepared to be controlling over a ton of metal at high speed.

And secondly, why would I be afraid of an extended driving test? I passed my driving test years ago, these new rules wouldn't even effect me, I am condemning these rules purely because they are stupid, not for selfish reasons, I'm not short sighted.

Thirdly, please explain how I keep people's insurance premiums high. I am an Advanced driver and practise safe advanced techniques on the road when I drive. So are you saying that advanced driving techniques are "moronic"? If not then please explain how this makes premiums high

Perhaps if you wait until your mouth has stopped frothing before you make a post next time your argument would not be deconstructed with such ease

Oh, I will ignore your quite frankly unprofessional ban hammer threat by the way (because you are losing the argument), I've given you quite enough to deal with as it is!

Perhaps if you actually consider what you are saying before posting, you might realise how moronic you sound 99% of the time. I do understand you get your kicks from winding people up but quite frankly, your poor at it. At least if your going to do a job, do it properly.
And there is no unprofessional use of the ban hammer. I have had this conversation with you time and time again about your sick and twisted fantasies. Other people dont want to hear it and ive also warned you that if you carry on, i will ban you.

Please grow up Yashar!