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The "debate" thread
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My main gripe is the privatisation of public services. For anyone who doesnt know privatisation is when a government owned body is either sold or closed in order to be run not by the government but by private companies. A government public service exists just for the good of the people and doesnt have to make a profit, however once it becomes privatised i.e. a business its goal changes from providing a service to making money.

For example... the railways in our country used to be epic where as now it is privatised and nothing works and its all expensive. What makes it worse is that the companies them complain they dont have enough money to fix the railways and the government has to then pay for the repairs just to keep the service from failing all together. So as a result... we have a failing system and even though it isnt the governments problem... they still pay for it!

So whats next? The NHS. Oh its losing money blah blah blah. it doesnt matter if its losing money. It is a service which everyone pays for in taxes! What you really dont want is for it to be privatised. If it continued to lose money it simply wouldnt exist, if it was made to make money then we would all be paying for it and it would price a lot of people out of operations and other medical treatments!

It is plainly obvious that the government is just privatising things so they dont have to take the debt of it which makes the government look like its not losing as much money. It wont be and you would probably pay less in tax. However now you pay twice as much for a train/bus ticket and you have to pay for your health care! So overall the government is better off but the general public is worse off!

Other things...
Road tax doesnt get spent on roads. All the taxes go into a big pot and get spent on whatever they are needed for. The main reason for road tax and fuel duty being introduced was to build the road infrastructure years ago and now its been built it should have been reduced however in reality is a massive earner for the government to spend on anything they want.

The prison system shouldnt be americanised but they should have xboxs and tvs. its prison for a reason not a bloody playgroup!

One which always come up at work as my bosses are both UKIP supporteds. The EU. There are reasons for being in the EU and reasons for not being in it. However you need to understand both.

Not in the EU because:
the euro because its a flop of a currency
various EU regulations
HS2 is actually an EU order and not a government choice.

Reasons to be in the EU:
free to trade borders with no tax saves lots of money.
get a vote in the europian parliment which we wouldnt have otherwise.

One that is especially important for me. They set food standards and standards for agriculture. For example lots of farms cant make money from farming because they have to compete with cheaper imports. However the EU subsidises many of our farmers which allows them to continue! If there wasnt subsidies for land set aside then we wouldnt have any farms at all!

Super markets arent a bad thing as who can be bothered to go to lots of little shops. You could just as easily say the internet is killing off highstreet shops (which it is) but nobody says thats a bad thing. The main thing is that super markets should be limited to where they can be built. They shouldnt be allowed to build close to town centres which affects highstreet shops. They need to be out of town for good road access and parking anyway really.

Also another thing that annoys me is the scrappage scheme. It kept car companies going in a resesion and thousands kept their jobs but what happened to all the old cars? Did they get crushed? Nope... they are all sat on an airfield!

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and i think as 306 owners many of us can say that a lot of the cars there are better than our own! There should definitely be some form of system where you can swap a worse off car with one of the better ones sitting in that airfield!

Finally. Foreign workers and immigration. There needs to be a cap on immigration and people do need to be sent home if they are causing problems. There shouldnt be any way people should be allowed in and claim benefits without contributing to society. It is shocking that white british is now a minority in our Capital. The problem is that british people simply think they are better than cleaning and other low paid jobs. The reality is that people need to grow the f*ck up and take any job they can get. You cant think youre above a job and then complain about somebody foreign doing it! It simply cant work both ways!

EDIT: Education... some company is trying to buy the university of sussex because it makes money and they have realised it and they want to make the money. Universities shouldnt be businesses. Nobody better start talking about how university is pointless or how my degree is worthless. each to their own! University makes money for the country. You arent paying for my student loan. Im paying it back WITH INTEREST so in total it makes money for the country! Schooling they should just stop messing around and changing it. As much as kids are getting A*s im sure loads are getting shit grades too. it should be harder to get an A* though! Just bloody well standardise the education system and stop messing about.

Also im sick of people saying we shouldnt have a royal family. Its so thick to think that they are worthless and a cost to our country. Its irrelevant that some of our money goes towards them as we get millions a year from tourism just for people visiting and buying the merch surrounding our monarchy! It makes a huge amount of money and gives us a lot of personality and identity as a country. Does anyone know who the president of France of Italy is at the moment? Nope but everyone knows we have a queen!
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The "debate" thread - by declantg - 19-03-2013, 02:32 PM
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