19-02-2013, 11:06 PM
The biggest death of modern cars is the fact that they're too SERIOUS...
As said in Jakes thread, the LAST car to say "Rag the shit out of me, get the back end going wild, have fun!" was the 106 GTI, recently the Toyota GT86...
Everything is made so that ANYONE can drive the cars, there's no "hairy chested" mans car anymore... It's not acceptable to have a car now with heavy clutches, a clattery gearbox, poor tyre wear when driven hard...
Everything these days is ALL about HOW fast it will go round the Nurburgring, trackdays all that bullshit... Sadly you CANNOT do ANY of that on a public road, if you manage to get a new Astra VXR out of shape on a public road, you're either going to die, kill someone or have your license removed... In a 306, 106 or old RWD Sports Car you can get things out of shape, safely at LOW speeds. Cars these days have big wide tyres to pull Physics bending Gs through corners, eLSDs that allow you to stick it in harder, but past the edge of grip, they're into a world of the unknown, but thankfully the traction control has cut in LONG ago to stop you finding out how shit the car is past the limit.
Handling and Grip are two VERY different things... Grip is what the car is like before the limit, Handling is what the car is like AFTER the limit... No one has concentrated for YEARS on what they're like past the limit (the answer is usually a sea of understeer and numbness)... The 106 GTi, 306 and as said the GT86 are the only cars recently to have considered what a car SHOULD drive like for an enthusiast.
As said in Jakes thread, the LAST car to say "Rag the shit out of me, get the back end going wild, have fun!" was the 106 GTI, recently the Toyota GT86...
Everything is made so that ANYONE can drive the cars, there's no "hairy chested" mans car anymore... It's not acceptable to have a car now with heavy clutches, a clattery gearbox, poor tyre wear when driven hard...
Everything these days is ALL about HOW fast it will go round the Nurburgring, trackdays all that bullshit... Sadly you CANNOT do ANY of that on a public road, if you manage to get a new Astra VXR out of shape on a public road, you're either going to die, kill someone or have your license removed... In a 306, 106 or old RWD Sports Car you can get things out of shape, safely at LOW speeds. Cars these days have big wide tyres to pull Physics bending Gs through corners, eLSDs that allow you to stick it in harder, but past the edge of grip, they're into a world of the unknown, but thankfully the traction control has cut in LONG ago to stop you finding out how shit the car is past the limit.
Handling and Grip are two VERY different things... Grip is what the car is like before the limit, Handling is what the car is like AFTER the limit... No one has concentrated for YEARS on what they're like past the limit (the answer is usually a sea of understeer and numbness)... The 106 GTi, 306 and as said the GT86 are the only cars recently to have considered what a car SHOULD drive like for an enthusiast.
