Number 9

[Toms306]

tom the thing your forgetting is that when people are out shopping for a brand new car, they are generally mid 20s and older and and not after a car for power....if your after a car for power, you dont buy a golf or a 306!
So really, the 306 made a good opponent to the golf...it was practically the same spec and had a very very reliable engine and were still 8k cheaper. and i dont care what you say, after spending pretty much all my life around the motor industry, VAGs are not that reliable!
DMFs are not nice, hence why the likes of VW, skoda ect replace them with solids under warranty when needed, hydro clutches are just another thing to go wrong, as my skoda proved and a 6speed box isnt always for economy. % speed box can also be very economical

I still haven't said vags are reliable lol? . Infact earlier I specifically said they were just as unreliable as any other car lol.

I see your point about older people buying cars.....but tell me your dad/grandad doesn't still drive a fast car? And if they all wanted slow, no 150tdis would've been sold. BUT they're ideal due to gettin.g a safe comfortable car to take the kids to school, then a quick car when they've got out, and an excellent motorway cruiser for your daily commute with the added bonus of real cheap tax and 60mpg. If you want a sports car you buy an aston obviously.....but for an all rounder, most people still want power too.


Dmfs are nice when they work, just like most other things lol. It's just a shame they can't come up with a better designed stronger one. And hydro clutches are nice, as are proper fbw throttles, was getting cramp from actually having to push pedals hard in the avensis after getting used to the golf haha.

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sorry just checked reg's and mk4's were. the move was 2005-2008 to common rail (just googled to double check lol)

and PD is what they use in boats but for cars emissions made them fail

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in my defence though i've only owned a mk1 gti and a couple of mk2's after that vag went crap to me

No problem, check your facts before telling me I'm wrong next time though eh.

And yeah, emmisions regs will ruin all engines eventually! Would love to have known my nox levels with de EGR and decat though haha