Can normal seat belts be used with buckets?

[Ricky]

I keep wondering about this, I want buckets for lightweight and support, but I don't want harnesses in a road car with no cage, is it possible to use normal seatbelts? I was thinking about the two holes at the bottom of each side, could put the seatbelt through the right hand side and the catch through the left hand side. Is it possible?

[Matt]

You can with recliners as that's what curts done

[Ricky]

But not with fixed? I don't like recliners much

[Matt]

The fixed wont be able too. With the solid sides the seat belt won't be around you, more around the seat. And in a crash would cause a lot of damage to your body as you wouldn't be held in

[Ricky]

Shame, will keep my seats then!

[cwspellowe]

It will if you unbolt the seatbelt and thread it through the harness holes used by 5 point harness, the ones down at the bolster.

[HDIkyle]

I used to have recliners with standard belt. Tbh a harness is not much hassle been out in sams 309 afew times and you don't really notice using a harness

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You could take the top top fixing for the belt and thread it tho the right hole then fix it back onto the pillar. Then when you pull it across and tho the left hole it would essentially be like a normal belt. Might not hold you tight tho

[306GT30]

Hmmz
no problems here

[Scott]

Those are a bit different though as the buckets are quite shallow. With the deeper buckets the belt just ends up tight across the seat rather than fitted to your body.

[Matt]

^^ that won't correctly hold you in an accident, with the raised sides of the buckets the seat belt will rest on these instead of your body. it will give you body an increased amount of movement, so the car will stop, with a normal seat you are held. and instead of you stoping with the car, with the bucket you will travel an extra 6 inches (for arguments sake) to then hit the seat belt and it will cause more damage then using harnessess

[samass]

or youd slide out underneath it, pushing your knees into your anus. sounds fun, but probably isnt

[Matt]

Sure you'd like it though eh Sam? Anything anally related.... Hahah

[samass]

meh, not so much. bit too brutal for me

[Niall]

as sam said, you will probably just submarine. The pretensioner wont have any affect as all it will do is pull the belt against the bucket. at best, you will just get severe whiplash

[zoemilly]

i used to have normal seatbelts with my fixed bucket seats until i fixed my harnesses in.. it passed its MOT with them like that aswell..

[Slam Wagon]

Anybody know the law on bucket seats and harnesses, do you have to be using harnesses? Is it legal to be using harnesses and not a seat belt? Or are you ment to still be using the original belt even though its worse for you? Im running buckets harnesses and a harness bar, all declared to insurance so no problems there. But my harness bar mounts where my seat belts used to so they have been removed. Can be swapped back for mot so thats not a problem but just wondering about driving for the rest of the year.

[zoemilly]

my dad owns a desert rally team called RallyRaid UK. and all our custom built rally cars run buckets and harnesses (obviously) but they are all road legal.. and fully mot'd with cages harnesses and fixed bucket seats. i don't think there is a law, so long as they are all fixed in correctly, and for obvious reasons i would go and have my car mot'd soon as you've put them in, so that your mot says mot'd with different seats and harnesses in case you have an accident, then there's no way of your insurance bullshitting about your seats...

[Just Sean]

Yeah harnesses are road legal. I had a 4 point with standard gti spec seats in my nova. Was good fun as you really could throw it about being stuck to the seat. Just couldn't reach the stereo! But had a remote control for it so even that wasn't too bad. Would be ideal if you've still got use of stereo controls on the steering wheel...

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Hmmz
no problems here

What are the four buttons at the bottom of your dash? is that the qbd 330 suede wheel?

[Niall]

Actually they are not legal. All road going cars have to have inertia reels on the belts however its one of them technicalities that will never be picked up on because harnesses do the same job!

[declantg]

I have a set of blue OMP harnesses for sale..