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locktight and wheel bolts - Daniel306 - 25-07-2012
I never used to tourqe my wheel bolt but when I put spaces on I thought I better start. Today was the second time they have come loose due to the heat of the brakes. I'm now going to locktight them in. Will it be ok with the heat?
RE: locktight and wheel bolts - strictly_perv - 25-07-2012
Surely bolts shouldn't come loose due to heat from the brakes?
RE: locktight and wheel bolts - cully - 25-07-2012
probably down to crap extended bolts stretching
RE: locktight and wheel bolts - kingy - 25-07-2012
if this was the case then everyones nuts would be loose.
mtfu and put some decent force on the brace youth.
RE: locktight and wheel bolts - Ricky - 25-07-2012
(25-07-2012, 07:44 PM)kingy Wrote: if this was the case then everyones nuts would be loose.
mtfu and put some decent force on the brace youth.
Too tight and they will snap if they are weak longer bolts.
RE: locktight and wheel bolts - kingy - 25-07-2012
(25-07-2012, 07:58 PM)Ricky Wrote:(25-07-2012, 07:44 PM)kingy Wrote: if this was the case then everyones nuts would be loose.
mtfu and put some decent force on the brace youth.
Too tight and they will snap if they are weak longer bolts.
get stronger bolts then
RE: locktight and wheel bolts - Ricky - 25-07-2012
(25-07-2012, 08:07 PM)kingy Wrote:(25-07-2012, 07:58 PM)Ricky Wrote:(25-07-2012, 07:44 PM)kingy Wrote: if this was the case then everyones nuts would be loose.
mtfu and put some decent force on the brace youth.
Too tight and they will snap if they are weak longer bolts.
get stronger bolts then
Yeah.
what size spacers you using?
RE: locktight and wheel bolts - kingy - 25-07-2012
to be on the safe side either get new bolts or what i would do is buy the proper hubcentric bolt to hub then bolt to spacer type. much safer imo.
RE: locktight and wheel bolts - Daniel306 - 25-07-2012
there hub centric spacers, i would never driver a car longer bolts. Iv had it happen with 205 alloys so the spacers and bolts are not to blame, i know its the heat as it happens after stupid break temperatures, iv had the alloys too hot to touch and the paint has now got fingerprints in it
RE: locktight and wheel bolts - kingy - 25-07-2012
(25-07-2012, 08:18 PM)Daniel306 Wrote: there hub centric spacers, i would never driver a car longer bolts. Iv had it happen with 205 alloys so the spacers and bolts are not to blame, i know its the heat as it happens after stupid break temperatures, iv had the alloys too hot to touch and the paint has now got fingerprints in it
no idea then mate. i still say its the bolts though.
RE: locktight and wheel bolts - Ricky - 25-07-2012
(25-07-2012, 08:18 PM)Daniel306 Wrote: there hub centric spacers, i would never driver a car longer bolts. Iv had it happen with 205 alloys so the spacers and bolts are not to blame, i know its the heat as it happens after stupid break temperatures, iv had the alloys too hot to touch and the paint has now got fingerprints in it
Sure you wheel bearings are ok? Remember a car of ours, the bearing had gone, wheel would scald you with the quickest touch.
RE: locktight and wheel bolts - strictly_perv - 25-07-2012
Could still be the thread in the spacers. You don't see track cars with wheels falling off due to bolts working loose because of heat.
If that where the case then I'd check the bolts bolting the spacer to the hub as they'd be even hotter there for even looser...
RE: locktight and wheel bolts - mark_airey - 25-07-2012
(25-07-2012, 08:18 PM)Daniel306 Wrote: there hub centric spacers, i would never driver a car longer bolts. Iv had it happen with 205 alloys so the spacers and bolts are not to blame, i know its the heat as it happens after stupid break temperatures, iv had the alloys too hot to touch and the paint has now got fingerprints in it
Ok so if its the heat why are the bolts holding the spacers on still tight if thats the case? because they are bolted though the brake disc so will get hotter!
RE: locktight and wheel bolts - Daniel306 - 25-07-2012
Iv not noticed the bearings going, they have both been done in the last 50k. if it happens again. il get some cap screws and put them in from the inside and put double nuts on the outside
RE: locktight and wheel bolts - Pompey306mark - 25-07-2012
Most spacers don't have thread on them. Make sure the bolts are long enough and go far enough into hub. I got some that went all the way through and even poked out the back of the hub a small amount.
I now run stud and nut conversions from JJC rally on eBay, Grayston I believe.
These I have locited into the hub and just torque up the nuts. If you do locite them in please becareful as there are different grades of locite, use the wrong one and you won't get them out the hub.
RE: locktight and wheel bolts - Daniel306 - 25-07-2012
used medium strength. im not 100%, but after extended brake use, park the car for the day then after about 10 miles the wheels start rattling. the done up to 85Nm but that feels loose to me
RE: locktight and wheel bolts - mark_airey - 25-07-2012
(25-07-2012, 08:34 PM)Pompey306mark Wrote: Most spacers don't have thread on them. Make sure the bolts are long enough and go far enough into hub. I got some that went all the way through and even poked out the back of the hub a small amount.
I now run stud and nut conversions from JJC rally on eBay, Grayston I believe.
These I have locited into the hub and just torque up the nuts. If you do locite them in please becareful as there are different grades of locite, use the wrong one and you won't get them out the hub.
Now read the thread..........................he has hubcentric spacers that bolt to the hub, you then bolt the wheel to the spacer
Thats how I read his post anyway
RE: locktight and wheel bolts - Daniel306 - 25-07-2012
Thats how i wrote it too,
RE: locktight and wheel bolts - mark_airey - 25-07-2012
(25-07-2012, 09:15 PM)Daniel306 Wrote: Thats how i wrote it too,
Oh good i'm not going nuts
Personally I would do them up a bit tighter! Don't go f*cking nuts and strip the threads but you know what I mean
