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Anti Roll Bars? - JTaylor2005 - 17-03-2015
Alright everyone
I am after the thickest set of anti roll bars I can get for my 306. I only have the meridian so it doesnt handle well at all really. Im looking for the big ones from the hdi dturbo, the xsara vts, or the gti6 preferably. What you all got and how much would you want?
Cheers, Jack
RE: Anti Roll Bars? - WiNgNuTz - 17-03-2015
I've removed your duplicate thread for you. Good luck with your search.
RE: Anti Roll Bars? - allanallen - 17-03-2015
24mm rear from a gti6, not all hdi's had them, neither did all the vts's. I'd say don't touch the front arb.
RE: Anti Roll Bars? - JTaylor2005 - 17-03-2015
Nice well I will have to try find one of them. I am going for those bilstein b4 shocks and a set of eibach springs as well. Why not touch the front bar?
RE: Anti Roll Bars? - allanallen - 17-03-2015
General rule of thumb on cheap upgrades is to stiffen the rear up to aid turn in. Fitting a bigger front bar will tend to make the car understeer even more. Some people remove the front bar completely, personally I'm not so sure on a road car but it works nicely on my rally car.
RE: Anti Roll Bars? - Toms306 - 17-03-2015
Any 3 door should have the 'GTi' beam with thicker rear ARB and torsion bars, so you might as well swap the whole beam on from one of those (GTi6/XSi/XS/HDi DTurbo). Also 5dr HDi DTurbos and 5 XSi's have the sports suspension.
However, I found that GTi beams made the rear end skippy on rough B roads as it just couldn't keep enough tyre contact on the road, I prefered Meridian beam for that any day! And a tank of fuel helps as well.
But on a smooth track or A road, the GTi beams were obviously better. Ride is noticeably worse with a GTi beam as well.
RE: Anti Roll Bars? - Stef205 - 17-03-2015
phase 1 vts had 24mm phase 2 had 23mm
gti6 24mm as said
RE: Anti Roll Bars? - allanallen - 17-03-2015
Not all 'sports' got the 24mm rear arb regardless of what peugeot and service box might say. Unless your beam is knackered it might not be a good idea swapping the entire beam either.
Tom I'd say your dampers were knackered, a 24mm rear arb hardly turns a 306 into a hardcore race car, still very civilised. Cars with far bigger torsion bars and arbs can be very sedate with the correct damping.
RE: Anti Roll Bars? - Toms306 - 17-03-2015
It's unlikely that all 3 3drs I had had knackered dampers tbh...
Depends how much of a rough ride you can handle though, again its down to personal preference I guess.
RE: Anti Roll Bars? - JTaylor2005 - 17-03-2015
Im just even more lost haha
so what arbs and torsion bars would u guys say would match up well and make it handle better than the stupidly soft suspension I have now haha
RE: Anti Roll Bars? - allanallen - 18-03-2015
All the infos there mate, to be fair this has been done to death so a search wouldn't go a miss. Going through things methodically I'd start by replacing all the bushes/joints on the car, make sure the beams in good nick and then look at modding it. A box fresh 306 handles surprisingly well!
Once you've done that I'd be going down the well trodden b8/eibach/21+24 bars route....
RE: Anti Roll Bars? - JTaylor2005 - 18-03-2015
Sweet haha. Thats all the stuff I was after then. B8s are very very expensive though. B4's are apparently decent as well. Then new anti roll bars I suppose and springs.
RE: Anti Roll Bars? - Poodle - 18-03-2015
(17-03-2015, 02:21 PM)Toms306 Wrote: It's unlikely that all 3 3drs I had had knackered dampers tbh...
Nonsense, you're a full-blown lemon magnet, any opinion you have to share about a 306 is irrelevant because of this simple fact.
Before mine came off the road i was still running the standard pov-spec arb and it didn't feel like it needed upgrading, even with everything else stiffened up.
RE: Anti Roll Bars? - allanallen - 18-03-2015
(18-03-2015, 07:24 AM)JTaylor2005 Wrote: Sweet haha. Thats all the stuff I was after then. B8s are very very expensive though. B4's are apparently decent as well. Then new anti roll bars I suppose and springs.
B4s are just an oe replacement, it'll feel loads better than your tired original dampers but it's not necessarily an upgrade
RE: Anti Roll Bars? - JTaylor2005 - 18-03-2015
Ahhh well then that will have to do because there is no way im spending £600 on a set of shocks haha. It will just have to handle decent not amazing lol
RE: Anti Roll Bars? - Chris - 19-03-2015
Got a 22mm front arb, biggest that you can get.
After £40 plus post. No offers.