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6 Box gear ratios - Niall - 17-08-2014
Does anyone know the ratios for gears 1 to 6 on a 2000 gti6 gearbox?
Cheers
RE: 6 Box gear ratios - Mike306 - 18-08-2014
(17-08-2014, 10:34 PM)Niall Wrote: Does anyone know the ratios for gears 1 to 6 on a 2000 gti6 gearbox?
Cheers
2.92 1.87 1.41 1.15 0.95 0.80 fd: 4.05
taken from http://www.track-monkey.co.uk/downloads/205ratiosGti6.xls
RE: 6 Box gear ratios - Niall - 18-08-2014
Thanks
RE: 6 Box gear ratios - cully - 18-08-2014
ive got it down as
Gearbox
Number of Gears 6
Ratios:
1st 2.92
2nd 1.87
3rd 1,.41
4th 1.15
5th 0.95
6th 0.79
Final drive 3.95:1
i sure there were two final drive ratios with a change over date in 1997
RE: 6 Box gear ratios - welshpug - 18-08-2014
Yes, there is a small difference in the fd used.
RE: 6 Box gear ratios - Eeyore - 18-08-2014
PFC said the rallye had a better gearbox than the 6. Are we saying that the FD is the difference?
RE: 6 Box gear ratios - PartyJas - 18-08-2014
Im pretty sure thats wrong. I think the Phase 1 had a different final drive but the Gti-6 and Rallye after phase 1 were the same box and FD.
I am of course open to be shot down in flames here. lol
RE: 6 Box gear ratios - RetroPug - 18-08-2014
I was under the impression that some time during producing ph.2 cars they changed the final drive as ph.2/3 cars a bit heavier.
RE: 6 Box gear ratios - welshpug - 18-08-2014
(18-08-2014, 01:01 PM)SRowell Wrote: PFC said the rallye had a better gearbox than the 6. Are we saying that the FD is the difference?
Utter bollocks lol
as mentioned, its just a mid 97 change, way before the rallye was built iirc
RE: 6 Box gear ratios - Eeyore - 18-08-2014
Yes i always thought the later 6 boxes in the rallye and the gti6 were identical!
RE: 6 Box gear ratios - cully - 18-08-2014
the reason they changed the ratio of the final drive in 97 was the PH1 was lighter than the ph2/3 due to lack of safety systems,
the heavyer ph2/3 needed the changed FD to dring back the lost go, cause of the increased wieght
RE: 6 Box gear ratios - mr405 - 18-12-2015
hi
GTi6 has only 3.95 ( or 4.05 ) and 4.44 FDs?
the pinion is 19?
what about 4.44's pinion ?
tnx
RE: 6 Box gear ratios - Alan_M - 18-12-2015
Is there a way of identifying the early and later 6 speed gearboxes apart without opening the box up?
I have 3 of them in my garage, and wish to try them in my 205. Just interested in seeing which ones I've got.
RE: 6 Box gear ratios - welshpug - 18-12-2015
might be the code stamped on them, but if not then its just the doff cover that needs popping off.
Edit - yep Servicebox says -
TA 38 is the 19 x 75.
19X77 - CT 22X19 MARKING TA70 TD43 TAG0 - REAR AXLE HYPOID GEARSET 19 X 77 AND TACHO TORQUE 22X19 SINCE RPO 07431 AND AGE >= 2
(18-12-2015, 10:47 AM)mr405 Wrote: hi
GTi6 has only 3.95 ( or 4.05 ) and 4.44 FDs?
the pinion is 19?
what about 4.44's pinion ?
tnx
3.95/4.05 only.
RE: 6 Box gear ratios - mr405 - 18-12-2015
http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=74745
this site says rallye is 4.44 !
RE: 6 Box gear ratios - welshpug - 18-12-2015
thats wrong.
RE: 6 Box gear ratios - mr405 - 18-12-2015
what about MI16's diff ?
I should change gear shaft ? or only CW and P
I have 19x79 CWP .. can I change only CW to make 4.16 ?
thanks a lot
RE: 6 Box gear ratios - welshpug - 18-12-2015
no.
you must change the cwp as a matching set, pinion is machined from the shaft, not a separate gear.
also 5 speed shaft is not long enough for 6 speed box, and splines for 3-4 gear vary.
RE: 6 Box gear ratios - mr405 - 18-12-2015
I want to use that for racing car .. max speed is less than 200 then I can use 19x79 or 17x77 with GTi6's gears .. without 6th .
17x77 , 17x81 , 19x79 is available here
have you any idea about weigh of 405's cabin without interior and seats ?
RE: 6 Box gear ratios - adam b - 19-12-2015
Better off using 5 speed box... It's a lot lighter and you get steering lock.
The 6 box is different from both be 3 and 4. We tried swapping gears about to suit a be4 4.5 final drive I have. Nothing fitted as they have different fitment spline numbers.
RE: 6 Box gear ratios - Stef205 - 19-12-2015
who cares about the ratios of a 6 box its awful box anyway.
