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not starting - LewisG306 - 13-11-2013
Hi all , Ive had a scout around the forum to see if i can find any similar issues that people have had and cant find a definite or clear answer.
I was out last night and the car was running absolutely fine , decided to have a race with 200bhp+ merc (and beat i may add
) and then afterwards pulled up and shut off.I then left it for 10 mins or so and then went to restart it , i usually wait every time for the glow plugs to do there thing , and the start. but it didnt start.
Tried turning off and then letting glow plugs go again , even though the engine will have been red hot from the rag before. It finally fired up after me planting my foot to the floor , but did it with a lot of white smoke and some really bad knocking and then ran fine and i drove home. I decided to check the timing last night and that seems all fine apart from the upper timing mark on the pump pulley being quite tight and same with the cam. I then rebuilt all the left side after checking the timing and gave it another try. Nothing this time , not even a cough or splutter.
Hope this is just something daft and not any engine damage of some sort , i worry way too much
Any help would be much appreciated , Thanks
Lewis
RE: not starting - colin247 - 13-11-2013
What do you mean by "the upper timing mark on the pump pulley being quite tight"
RE: not starting - LewisG306 - 13-11-2013
(13-11-2013, 11:20 AM)colin247 Wrote: What do you mean by "the upper timing mark on the pump pulley being quite tight"
Trying to screw a bolt into the 1st timing mark is a bit tight, the other one just screws in with issues , but that one screws in as if its the wrong type of thread kind of feeling. I am using the inter cooler bolts so should be the right thread. you know what i mean ?
RE: not starting - colin247 - 13-11-2013
Try locking the flywheel and releasing the belt tensioner, check it by bolting the pump then the camshaft.
RE: not starting - LewisG306 - 13-11-2013
Would the timing being out a tooth really cause the car not to start at all though? Tonight I have checked my dodgy wire that runs from the loom to the start stop solenoid and that is okay, next think to do is check the solenoid it's self I think , I stood behind the car and watched for any smoke and there wasn't any when he turned if over which seems to me like there is no fuel being delivered to the engine? I may be wrong though?
RE: not starting - Jenkosowls - 13-11-2013
Take solenoid plunger out and try that will eliminate that as a problem or simply put a seperate 12v source to the solenoid. If it clicks it's fine.
RE: not starting - LewisG306 - 13-11-2013
Is it okay running it with no plunger then mate? I'll still be able to turn the f*cker off if it fires? And will do this either tomorrow or on the weekend!
RE: not starting - Tom - 13-11-2013
You'll want it in gear and your foot on the clutch
RE: not starting - daniel909 - 13-11-2013
ask willJspears sounds a bit like the problem he had not so long ago
RE: not starting - LewisG306 - 13-11-2013
Cheers for your help lads , and I'll see if I can get in contact with him daniel909 , cheers
RE: not starting - willJspears - 18-11-2013
Are you running a lucas or Bosch pump ? The stop solenoid on the lucas is such a ball ache to get to.
RE: not starting - LewisG306 - 21-11-2013
No worries , i got this sorted last week , turned out to be the main feed wire to the glow plugs had snapped. I'm guessing it was down to heat and vibration. For any one who has a problem with the car not starting, this is definitely something else that shouldn't be overlooked.
The wire from the loom to the stop solenoid (bosch) was also a little bit cut and bruised. It is bodged seen as I have converted from lucas and had to bypass the immobiliser etc.
Thanks for your help and concern anyway lads
RE: not starting - Tom - 21-11-2013
This is a great example of why you shouldnt jump to conclusions!