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I'm looking to fit my new Fmic in the next couple of days but have no idea where I'm going to put the piping! Has anyone got piping pictures or could give me any advice please?

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What size pipping you using? It looks massive

sorry but ain't that got a few to many bends? i thought the objective was to get pipework as short as possible to decrease lag?

Thread moved to appropriate section mate.

IIRC theres pics somewhere in the guides section too

Some ideas here
And also this

These are mine, but can't take credit cause I boght them both 2nd hand.

Prefer the 2inch setup with twinpass intercooler though - much neater.

heres mine

left side of the Rad



Right side

Thanks guy, a lot of help! Gunna go get all the piping tomorrow for it!

This is mine:

(27-09-2012, 11:54 AM)nufc4frosty Wrote: [ -> ]

(27-09-2012, 11:46 AM)dturbopeck Wrote: [ -> ]

What size pipping you using? It looks massive

2.5" I think,

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(27-09-2012, 12:54 PM)Kwik Wrote: [ -> ]sorry but ain't that got a few to many bends? i thought the objective was to get pipework as short as possible to decrease lag?

It dosnt make a noticeable difference, TBH

This is mine although I have modified a few of the bends since

dturbopeck i must have my physics wrong then hehe.

Honestly redesign it with less bends and more straights which will reduce piping length which will decrease lag. is elementary physics bends slow things down. look at everyone else's to yours and you'll see.

(28-09-2012, 01:18 PM)Kwik Wrote: [ -> ]dturbopeck i must have my physics wrong then hehe.

Honestly redesign it with less bends and more straights which will reduce piping length which will decrease lag. is elementary physics bends slow things down. look at everyone else's to yours and you'll see.

You don't mate, but it does me, it is on the to do list however, thinner pipe and better routing for when the bigger turbo goes on,

(28-09-2012, 02:21 PM)dturbopeck Wrote: [ -> ]

(28-09-2012, 01:18 PM)Kwik Wrote: [ -> ]dturbopeck i must have my physics wrong then hehe.

Honestly redesign it with less bends and more straights which will reduce piping length which will decrease lag. is elementary physics bends slow things down. look at everyone else's to yours and you'll see.

You don't mate, but it does me, it is on the to do list however, thinner pipe and better routing for when the bigger turbo goes on,

That's cool. Not having a pop just i'm rather blunt. I'd say do it now and what turbo is yours running?

Just a t2, am happy with it now, but I want more!

lol as i say to everyone get a superbike that's the way forward lol

has anyone bought a universal kit and it all fitted ok with nothing else needed? i've got an adapter ready just looking at fmic kits now and trying to decide on something, also wondering on ideal size of ic...

(27-09-2012, 06:47 PM)zx_volcane Wrote: [ -> ]These are mine, but can't take credit cause I boght them both 2nd hand.

Prefer the 2inch setup with twinpass intercooler though - much neater.

im going to go for the 2" set up with a twin pass intercooler

(27-09-2012, 06:47 PM)zx_volcane Wrote: [ -> ]These are mine, but can't take credit cause I boght them both 2nd hand.

Prefer the 2inch setup with twinpass intercooler though - much neater.

were can i get hold of a convertion adapter for the fmic mate ?

I cut a bigger hole where the washer bottle went went that way......had to remove washer bottle

IMHO don't get too hung up on keeping the lengths short, concentrate more on not changing the diameter of the piping... Going from 1 3/4" up to 3" then back down to 2 inch then up to 3 inch is NOT good for airflow, it reduces gas velocity, increases restriction (i.e. piping pressure will go up, pressure to the actual manifold doesnt change)...

If the entire intercooling system was say 35 litres (and that's being very generous) - a Garrett T25 at it's peak flow puts out around 21lb/min = 0.15 kg/s (mass airflow) which when you convert to volumetric flow is around 0.12m^3/s - 35 litres is 0.035m^3/second so that'd take around 0.29 seconds to fill, obviously that's at full flow, but I'm sure you can appreciate my point, that it's not so much the volume, it's the reduction in size that affects things...

Also people really aren't working on air intakes hard enough, IMHO it's actually one of THE most important points of a tuned Turbocharged diesel engine, having the inlet as unrestrictive as possible... People assume that as long as it's the same size of pipe as the compressor inlet, it'll do, it all stems from what we learnt from NA engines where shoving a fat cone filter on doesn't do jack... On a turbo diesel, *improving* the air intake system will help massively...



Notice the MASSIVE air intake, our engines NEED this... And keep it cool on the way!!!

Bosh

i see some peope have an adapter where the inlet bolts to the standard intercooler so they can use a fmic, are they home made or does someone supply them?

(06-11-2012, 12:33 PM)craig-dodd Wrote: [ -> ]i see some peope have an adapter where the inlet bolts to the standard intercooler so they can use a fmic, are they home made or does someone supply them?

i think there is someone who makes them but most people just use a xantia manifold

(06-11-2012, 12:33 PM)craig-dodd Wrote: [ -> ]i see some peope have an adapter where the inlet bolts to the standard intercooler so they can use a fmic, are they home made or does someone supply them?

i have just perchaced one from ash... i am going to have a few made up cus they are not easy to get hold of,plus i did'nt want to mess about getting the xantia manifold

if any ones interested I now have another adapter and also a xantia manifold goin spare

bit skint this week butif you still have the adapter next weekend il buy it off you