DW10 vs DW12 vs DV6

[Piggy]

It doesn't fit....!

[damiank94]

Weird. One guy in Poland's 307 Club fitted EW12 ML6 into EW10, so I would expect same in DW10/12. What gearbox do you tried to fit?

[welshpug]

that's EW engines, they are alloy block petrol, DW is iron block Diesel.


someone will correct me I'm sure but I believe the 16v DW's are the same bolt pattern and different to the 8v DW which is the same as the XUD and all the XU petrols, and of course the angle of the dangle varied on them as well.

[madmadmax]

well ive got an ml6 bolted to my dw10 i can go take some pics if you want me to oh ive got some https://www.306oc.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=35605

[Piggy]

Certain ml6 will bolt to dw10 (8v HDi)

But physically the 6 speed 2.2 I had, box would not fit the 8v block

[Piggy]

I'm not totally clued up on all box codes v engine codes tbh.
For instance, be3/4 boxes can be 15° or 30° to suit the engines position as they changed it in stuff more modern than the 306

[damiank94]

If you have pull clutch, then you could have 20MB04, 20MB05 or 20MB08. Every of them sits in 2.2 HDI Citroen C5, Peugeot 807/Citroen C8/other eurovan and Peugeot 607.

[mr_fish]

RHR manifold will fit, but turbo will then foul the water pipe along the back of the engine.

[welshpug]

ahh move the pipe

[mr_fish]

ahh move the pipe

I did think this but the turbo would it nigh on in the middle of the tunnel. Think most of the RHR setups have the blowers mounted 180* different to standard 306/206. More room in the bigger cars I would presume.

Did explore what OE setups were out there for the 309, but just ended up drilling the standard manifold, moving the actuator/vac can/whatever you want to call it and making up an inlet pipe.

[damiank94]

Hey again,

When looking for something in Google, I accidentaly found this. https://www.google.pl/search?q=406+coupe...BC79o-nFPM:

Anyone knows, if this IC is better than stock IC from 406?

Also, http://www.hdi-tuning.co.uk/ecu-remappin...DI110.html
Stage 2 + 1600bar R70 pump. How much power could expect?

And, how much power stock RHY engine and BE4 gearbox could handle?

Cheers.

[Poodle]

Do you know what turbo you will be using? The stock unit will be a restriction before fuel.

[damiank94]

I think I found a solution for bigger turbo . And it's still in HDI . I found some info, that stock GT1549S is somewhat similar to GT1749V, which could give around ~180HP. Of course GT1549S is wastegated, while GT1749V is VNT. There's some 1.9 TDI in Poland with this GT1549S, and after upgrading fuel system, they have around 170HP and 380NM.

Check turbocharger from Peugeot 807 (or other eurovan/car with RHW onboard). It's GT1549S and after boring two holes in manifold (or turbo) it should fit perfectly in 306 (or whatever RHY/RHS/RHZ car).

There's dyno of AHU:

https://zapodaj.net/97b6dcfaedb9c.png.html

Also, conrods. RHY vs RHZ/RHS/(RHW?) vs RHR. Does RHR has strongest conrods of them all?

[Poodle]

Well that pump and standard injectors will comfortably supply enough fuel for 180bhp. I don't know enough about the 16v engines to say for sure, but I suspect the 1749v will be at it's limit before anything else restricts power increase.