HELP PLEASE, front wiper problem losing my mind

[Mattcheese31]

well shaft me sideways . . . . . . i removed the hidden blue relay on the phase 1, went to swap it into the phase 2 and it doesn't have a place for one! . . . . .i've run out of ideas now, cleaned all the relay sockets up to no avail . . . . .

anyone have a wiring diagram for it? . . . looks like i'm gonna have to strip the entire wiper loom out the old car and bodge it onto the new one ffs . . it's not exactly my area of expertise . .boohoo

[Danny2009]

f*ck that for a laugh! I'd sell it and but something else loads easier

[Mattcheese31]

f*ck that for a laugh! I'd sell it and but something else loads easier

thanks for the contribution Danny but that's not an option, i've fixed loads of shit on it already, i'll get there pal somehow

[Danny2009]

Any time mate haha

Been racking my brains but I'm as stumped as you are :/

[Mattcheese31]

Any time mate haha

Been racking my brains but I'm as stumped as you are :/

cheers mate now why don't you get back to buying rustbuckets and HG failures . . . . . . don't fancy helping me swap the rear beams on these two cars some time soon do ya? . .

[Danny2009]

I would have gladly helped but you can struggle on your own now

Yea let me know pal ill fetch my jack and 4 stands up

[Mattcheese31]

I would have gladly helped but you can struggle on your own now

Yea let me know pal ill fetch my jack and 4 stands up

cheers mate, this lowered beam is cambered pretty bad, not touching yet but a nats bollock from it . .lol

[Danny2009]

Just give me a shout mate

[Mattcheese31]

well just to update on this, i've just had a real good search and there's NO BLUE RELAY behind the fuseboard on this phase 2, i've checked both my phase 1's and sure enough they are there, not on this car though, anyone have any bright ideas before i burn the fcuking thing?

seems that the two purple relays have to do with the wipers (left of the fuseboard) as you unplug any one and wipers stop working, anyone else have the two purple ones? . . .

[Piggy]

Are you sure the replacement motor works fine?

Having a stop position go wrong is normally a track issue inside the motor

[Mattcheese31]

Are you sure the replacement motor works fine?

Having a stop position go wrong is normally a track issue inside the motor

yes, well put it this way, it's worked perfectly for the last 5 years, unless it suddenly decided to mimic the old motor somewhere between me taking it off and refitting it to the new car? but thanks . . . .


sorry it's making me really pissy, had enough now . .

[Toms306]

2 purple relays are for auto wipers in phase 3s. Swap them over...theoretically park and intermittent should work fine and full speed will then be broken if it is the relay at fault.

[Welshy_Pete]

What are the 3 pins like inside the wiper motor?

There 3 or 4 small nuts take those of then inside the pins are there. If any one of them corroded or broken big problems start.

[Mattcheese31]

2 purple relays are for auto wipers in phase 3s. Swap them over...theoretically park and intermittent should work fine and full speed will then be broken if it is the relay at fault.

i swapped them round Tom and it was just the same, could it have had the windscreen replaced and the old sensor is fcuking things up now? . . .

clutching at straws i know . .

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What are the 3 pins like inside the wiper motor?

There 3 or 4 small nuts take those of then inside the pins are there. If any one of them corroded or broken big problems start.

i replaced the wiper motor for one that has been working for 5 years in my old car no problems and it's exactly the same, tried a another working stalk too . . . .:/

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is the auto wiper stalk different to one's without does anyone know? . . . . . .got me thinking . . .

[Toms306]

Hmm, if you swapped them and no difference it cant be the relays - doesn't rule out the wiring to them though.

If you unplug the sensor on an auto setup it just reverts back to intermittent instead of auto so shouldn't cause issues. Yes the stalk is different, but again I think it'd just revert back to intermittent if you put a non auto stalk on.

[Danny2009]

You tried another stalk tho haven't you pal?

[Mattcheese31]

You tried another stalk tho haven't you pal?

yes mate, a phase 1 one...

[Piggy]

Hmm, if you swapped them and no difference it cant be the relays - doesn't rule out the wiring to them though.

If you unplug the sensor on an auto setup it just reverts back to intermittent instead of auto so shouldn't cause issues. Yes the stalk is different, but again I think it'd just revert back to intermittent if you put a non auto stalk on.

But he hasnt got auto wipers?!

[Mattcheese31]

Hmm, if you swapped them and no difference it cant be the relays - doesn't rule out the wiring to them though.

If you unplug the sensor on an auto setup it just reverts back to intermittent instead of auto so shouldn't cause issues. Yes the stalk is different, but again I think it'd just revert back to intermittent if you put a non auto stalk on.

But he hasnt got auto wipers?!

no but Tom is saying the two purple relays is same as an auto wiper setup,

[Piggy]

but he is talking about it reverting to intermittent etc...well it wont do that coz it doesnt have that setup.

how do you get it back to parking position then mate?

[Toms306]

but he is talking about it reverting to intermittent etc...well it wont do that coz it doesnt have that setup.

how do you get it back to parking position then mate?

We're confused as 'usually' 2 purple relays is for auto, one blue relay is for manual. Yet Matt seems to have 2 purple relays but a manual setup - so maybe it should've been auto.

IF it had been an auto setup and someone had changed the screen and ditched the sensor I was saying it shouldn't make a difference to the parking as it'd just revert to intermittent. Read the whole thread.

I don't know what else to suggest now though - wipers really aren't complicated, its simply: Power - fuse - stalk - relay - motor - Earth. If you've swapped all those with known good ones then it can only be a wiring fault left but that'd usually just cause them to fail altogether.

[Piggy]

are the ph1 and ph2 motors the same??

[Toms306]

I've never had a phase 1 but I believe the motors are the same across all phases. Someone else can confirm hopefully though.

[Mattcheese31]

but he is talking about it reverting to intermittent etc...well it wont do that coz it doesnt have that setup.

how do you get it back to parking position then mate?

We're confused as 'usually' 2 purple relays is for auto, one blue relay is for manual. Yet Matt seems to have 2 purple relays but a manual setup - so maybe it should've been auto.

IF it had been an auto setup and someone had changed the screen and ditched the sensor I was saying it shouldn't make a difference to the parking as it'd just revert to intermittent. Read the whole thread.

I don't know what else to suggest now though - wipers really aren't complicated, its simply: Power - fuse - stalk - relay - motor - Earth. If you've swapped all those with known good ones then it can only be a wiring fault left but that'd usually just cause them to fail altogether.

what he said lol . . . .