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RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - ginge191 - 22-08-2013
Any news with this?!
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - Jonny81191 - 22-08-2013
(22-08-2013, 06:12 AM)ginge191 Wrote: Any news with this?!
I'll do an update soon, the thing is at the moment it's labour intensive and you don't see much change, although the cage is now in. Once the underside is sorted, then things will start happening, like painting
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - Grant - 22-08-2013
Not much change yet the cage is in?!? Get some pictures up wee man!!!
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - Jonny81191 - 22-08-2013
Heh, I'll get it done soon
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - Poodle - 26-08-2013
About time you updated this!
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - Piggy - 26-08-2013
ahh man, saw this new post and assumed an update! me disappointed now
Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - devils_fuel - 26-08-2013
(26-08-2013, 08:44 PM)Piggy Wrote: ahh man, saw this new post and assumed an update! me disappointed now
As he said...
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - procta - 26-08-2013
(14-12-2012, 10:07 PM)306racecar Wrote: I am pretty sure this has been covered before, but here are our findings on weight whilst we were stripping the car.
Item Weight (Kg's)
Drivers Seat: 19.3
Passenger Seat: 16.8
Front Carpet: 6.6
Lower Rear Seats: 7.5
Upper Rear Seats: 10.1
Front Door Cards: 5.8
Rear door cards: 5.7
Roof Lining: 1.5
Rear Carpet: 7.0
Boot Carpet/
Sound Proofing: 5.2
Parcel Shelf: 4.4
Wheel Trim X4: 1.9
Plastic Trim: 6.9
There were some other parts that were weighed, according to my notes, which i can't quite figure out. However, the end result was a saving of 111.2 kg's from stripping the interior. We haven't included the dash in this, I'm assuming that had a fair bit of weight in it, seeming as it took two of us to handle. That has been stripped of all its wires and won't be going back in, so if anyone has an idea of how much it weighs, that would be great!
So, based on the fact that the 3 door model weighs in at 1135 kg's, that will bring us down to 1023.8 kg's. There is are still areas where we believe we can save some more weight, so once those have been figured out , we'll update you.
when I was down sliverstone for MG metro cup, I most of the cars, had the backs off the boot lids, bonnets and doors cut out. Leaving just the skins, also most of the dash was removed too, with a little piece for the clocks.
so an idea there for you and even fit a racing tank too. also get hold of fiberglass panels too and thin the car loom out as much as you can!
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - Piggy - 26-08-2013
there is a guy on 306gti OC doing fibreglass door skins, bonnets, wings and boots
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - Jonny81191 - 27-08-2013
I'll update this tonight with a few pictures chaps.
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - puglove - 27-08-2013
still no pics ???? wtf??????
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - cwspellowe - 27-08-2013
Plexi windows and tailgate saves a good 20-30kg all in.
Single skin as many panels as you can, just leave the lock/catch mechanisms in place.
Fibreglass bonnet can save about 15-20kg, single skin with a couple of catches to hold it down. Fibreglass is almost as light as carbon and nowhere near the price. Same for the wings and bootlid, fibreglass the lot and look at up to 50kg weight saving.
Presumably you've stripped off the likes of the PAS? Good few kg's there
Lightweight pulleys and flywheel, another 10kg
Depends how hardcore you're going, realistically you could get the car way down at 900kg.
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - 306racecar - 27-08-2013
Finally update time!!
Underseal takes a LOT of removing, we spent hours and hours at it, with fire and angle grinders and chisels and drills and wire brushes and fingernails
While we were at it, we've seam welded everything and fixed a lot of holes that had appeared, using the bonnet for patches.
We (jonny) also managed to set it on fire. Twice.
Anyway, after rolling it over a couple of times to make life easier for welding etc., we started thinking about fitting the cage, so sat the shell back on spare tyres and wrestled the cage into position. Cue pratting around with a seat and a steering wheel
We then removed the cage after marking the position of the mounts, then moved the shell to Jonny's as the shed hasn't taken kindly to the winter and the bare metal where we'd removed the underseal was starting to rust quite fast! The problem was, we'd sold the flatbed trailer as it was too small and we needed the money. So borrowed an even smaller one
Moving completed, with some help from Samass, we got the foot mounts welded in place and test fitted the cage, before turning the shell over again for one last go at the underseal/rust. Then, last weekend, Poodle came to help and we (Carl eventually showed up at 4PM, slacker
) got the whole underside pretty much ready for painting, welded the massive hole in the arch up, and found some more bits in the boot floor that needed welding.Hopefully we'll be on track to get the underseal on next week, assuming all goes well with the rest of the preparation.
The updates should get more frequent from now on in, less messing about with rust and more fitting of shinies and boosty stuff.
A few more pictures will follow, just gotta go and take them
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - Piggy - 27-08-2013
while considering seam welder...have a gander a the front subframe...theres a lot of potential for stiffening on that!!!!
good progress though chaps!!
Are going for fibreglass skins on all doors/bonnet/boot...even roof??
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - Jonny81191 - 27-08-2013
Ah, the subframe will be bolted on afterwards though, haven't looked at that yet
Fiberglass bonnet, single skin boot and doors, metal wings and roof.
For the time being at least
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - Piggy - 27-08-2013
fibreglass boot? plastic windows too?
yeah check out the subframe. get a good sanding disc on the grinder, clean it up. It will shock you that it managed to do what it does. SO bad.
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - Jonny81191 - 27-08-2013
Plastic windows will be fitted straight away, as for the fiberglass panels, we'll have to wait. Single skin doors and boot don't weigh all that much anyway
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - londondan86 - 27-08-2013
Can't beleive I missed this one! Well done chaps, look forward to more updates
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - Jonny81191 - 28-08-2013
Couple more pictures as promised.
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - Poodle - 28-08-2013
Yeah, check that shiny-ass underside!
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - puglove - 28-08-2013
nice work guys
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - mr_fish - 28-08-2013
quite interested in how light the shell is on its own. looks like it only took a few of you to move it.
an epic build here. good work.
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - Jonny81191 - 28-08-2013
The shell must be sub 250kgs. 2 people can just about lift it.
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - procta - 28-08-2013
are you not going to weld up any unused holes?
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - Jonny81191 - 28-08-2013
Yeah, all of them!
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - londondan86 - 28-08-2013
Nooo! Welding is adding weight! Lol
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - Jonny81191 - 28-08-2013
it'll be light enough, don't worry
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - 306racecar - 28-08-2013
So tonight has involved reinforcement of the sills with some box section. Yeah, it adds weight but tbh the sills are pretty rotten and this will also mean we can jack the car anywhere along the side. They'll also add a fair bit of rigidity, right between the feet of the cage.
And that's just tacked in place, there's going to be a weld all the way along both accessible sides.
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - martyn92 - 28-08-2013
Good idea I like it!
RE: Carl and Jonny's XUD Hillclimber - Jonny81191 - 28-08-2013
Overheated the welder though
First time so far, hope I didn't cook it!