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Torsion Bars / ARB Group Buy **FIRST POST UPDATED** - cwspellowe - 25-10-2012
Right after having no luck in finding the torsion bars I want/need, i've made a few calls and can now offer a group buy on custom torsion bars for the 306, but can also include them for the 106 and 205 ones too.
Your choice of size, however thick you want. Anything over 23mm will need the trailing arms to be removed as the bar won't physically fit through the splined holes, but the splined ends will remain the same size so no actual machining work is needed.
Torsion Bars
Confirmed prices for these are £220 a set if less than 5 names, £180 a set if more than 5 names. Any bars over 25mm will come with a surcharge due to the extra material used. Postage works out at £25 a set to your door.
Anti-Roll Bars
Just found out they can also do these, at £90 for under 25mm and £100 for over 25mm
Hybrid anti-roll bars
The fabled hybrid ARB can also be made, the largest you can fit without modification to the trailing arms assemblies. £125 as part of the group buy
These are the same guys that a certain well known performance Peugeot company use that retail at £324 so there is potential for a MASSIVE saving here. To put things in perspective, Peugeot Sport 23.5mm bars were retailed at 200Euros EACH when you could buy them new. Xsara 21mm bars, with Peugeot staff discount at cost + 10% come in at £190 new.
As you can see the prices are exceptional considering you could go as hardcore as 25mm for the same price as new Xsara VTS bars!
Spring rates
18mm 90lb/inch
19mm 110lb/inch
20mm 135lb/inch
21mm 165lb/inch
22mm 195lb/inch
23mm 235lb/inch
24mm 280lb/inch
25mm 330lb/inch
I've also been assured these are multi-stage heat treated and made of the same material as Peugeot Sport bars (EN47 iirc?) so no chance of sagging after a few miles.
As said, without mentioning names, the company they supply has never had any complaints from customers, and these direct from the manufacturer come in at a massive 45% saving
I'm definitely in for a set, add your name to the list if you want some. And remember, this isn't limited to 306's, so share around other forums if you know anyone else with a Peugeot or Citroen that wants a set!
I'm leaving this running for a week or so, I will be ordering my bars on the 31st so if anyone else is in they need to commit for the end of the month.
Right everyone, just off the phone to him.
With regards to sizes:
He's produced the hybrid ARB before so has the exact dimensions to guarantee no modification to fit one. 30mm ARB's will need the trailing arm pins modified.
Torsion bars can be done to ANY size. 21.5mm? No problem. 23.1mm? Sure.
The maximum size they can make the torsion bars in to fit without removing a trailing arm are 23.5mm, the same as the Peugeot Sport ones. The cutaways in the splined sections are deeper than the 24mm diameter so to confirm, 24mm bars will not fit without removing a trailing arm.
If anyone needs to change their order based on this information please copy and paste the list from here with the new order.
He's also said that if I can get the first 5 people paid up he will start work on the orders, so anyone who has paid up can get them straight away.
Please email me at stancewagon@hotmail.co.uk or PM me if you want payment details and to arrange delivery address etc.
PAYMENT (Will update this as we go along)
1. cwspellowe - 306 23.5mm bars PAID
2. Jonny81191- 306 24mm bars
3. Niall - 306 22mm bars PAID
4. c.gerrard - 306 size TBC
5. Matt - 23mm bars
6. lisa306- 23mm..TBC
7. Chris - 306 30mm ARB
8. Grant - 306 24mm bars
9. Sean - 306 23.5mm bars
10. luke306rallye - 306 23.5mm bars PAID
11. puglove - 306 23.5mm bars + hybrid ARB PAID
12. jimmy-boy (106RR) - 106 22mm bars
13. Huliblus (106RR) - 106 23mm bars
At this rate i'll be ordering the first lot tomorrow for anyone that's paid, meaning you should see them at your door mid-end next week. If anyone else is in a position to pay sooner rather than later let me know so I can get more orders in
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - Chris - 25-10-2012
Chris, 23.5mm bars will fit through standard arms.
I'm 95% sure 24mm will too.
I used to have 25mm bars in my 5dr and the ride was harsh, but handled like it was on rails.
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - samass - 25-10-2012
Got any info on the respective spring rates?
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - cwspellowe - 25-10-2012
Edited for spring rates
Chris I though the splines were 23.5mm or so so a tight squeeze? Think I might go 24mm tbh to keep the estate practical haha
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - Chris - 25-10-2012
TBH if its on the road 23.5 will be more than enough.
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - cwspellowe - 25-10-2012
Yes but I have major fitment issues haha
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - Chris - 25-10-2012
You wont stop the rubbing even with 25mm bars.
Mine was 5-10mm tops from the stops with avo shocks on fully firm and it still rubbed.
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - cwspellowe - 25-10-2012
Yeah but i've taken an angle grinder to mine
Also could someone post/link to this on the GTI forum? I'm not a paid member on there
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - Chris - 25-10-2012
Just about to do that now for you
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - Jonny81191 - 25-10-2012
1. cwspellowe - 306 23mm bars
2. Jonny81191- 306 24mm bars
Seeing as UPS lost my 23.5's
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - cwspellowe - 25-10-2012
Think i might go for 24's having had a think.. when in Rome
1. cwspellowe - 306 24mm bars
2. Jonny81191- 306 24mm bars
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - Niall - 25-10-2012
(25-10-2012, 12:15 PM)cwspellowe Wrote: Think i might go for 24's having had a think.. when in Rome
1. cwspellowe - 306 24mm bars
2. Jonny81191- 306 24mm bars
3. Niall - 306 23mm bars (on the provision that we get more than 5 people as I'm a tight bastard!)
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - cwspellowe - 25-10-2012
Niall we'll get 5 don't worry. A couple of people interested on 106owners and it's only been running a few hours. Also I can see the thread on gti6.com but i'm a tight bastard and haven't renewed my membership. Anyone has any questions get them to drop me a line through here
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - c.gerrard - 25-10-2012
I'm happy to be the fourth person to sign up for this!
Not sure what size, so I shall let you know shortly
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - cwspellowe - 25-10-2012
1. cwspellowe - 306 24mm bars
2. Jonny81191- 306 24mm bars
3. Niall - 306 23mm bars (we WILL get 5 names so don't feel like a Jew)
4. c.gerrard - 306 size TBC
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - Niall - 25-10-2012
Cool looks like my overdraft is getting arse raped this month
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - cwspellowe - 25-10-2012
Ed Doe i see you loitering, get your name down you little bitch.
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - Matt - 25-10-2012
1. cwspellowe - 306 24mm bars
2. Jonny81191- 306 24mm bars
3. Niall - 306 23mm bars (we WILL get 5 names so don't feel like a Jew)
4. c.gerrard - 306 size TBC
5. Matt - 23mm bars
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - Ed Doe - 25-10-2012
Oh GAWD! So. Much. Want.
I really can't afford them this month
Any ideas when you'll be ordering?Can you get a better rate again if you get more people? I'm interested in the 23mm but subject to a super-skint-cheapo rate!!
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - cwspellowe - 25-10-2012
Erm £180 IS super skint cheapo compared to the re-seller's price!
Emailed him and no, can't get them any lower than £180+postage. He CAN however do 309 bars though. Can someone please let the fella on gti6.com know 309 bars are ok?
And to answer order dates, i'm placing an order for me at the end of this month. Short notice but payday and I need them asap for the estate, would be ordering them tomorrow but set a date of 31st October to allow others to join up and try and reap the benefits...
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - Ben - 25-10-2012
Think ill probably get some of these. Not quite sure how to decide what size though so I won't put my name down yet. Would they do ARB's as well? People may be interested in those as well..
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - Chris - 25-10-2012
Good point, how much for 30mm arb if they can do them
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - Lisa306 - 25-10-2012
1. cwspellowe - 306 24mm bars
2. Jonny81191- 306 24mm bars
3. Niall - 306 23mm bars (we WILL get 5 names so don't feel like a Jew)
4. c.gerrard - 306 size TBC
5. Matt - 23mm bars
6.lisa306-23mm..TBC
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - JackLewis_Dturbo - 25-10-2012
1. cwspellowe - 306 24mm bars
2. Jonny81191- 306 24mm bars
3. Niall - 306 23mm bars (we WILL get 5 names so don't feel like a Jew)
4. c.gerrard - 306 size TBC
5. Matt - 23mm bars
6. lisa306-23mm..TBC
7. Jack - 106 (unsure what size currently as its for a friend)
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - Lisa306 - 25-10-2012
ya fixed it..lol
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - JackLewis_Dturbo - 25-10-2012
(25-10-2012, 03:12 PM)Lisa306 Wrote:(25-10-2012, 03:10 PM)JackLewis_Dturbo Wrote: 1. cwspellowe - 306 24mm bars
2. Jonny81191- 306 24mm bars
3. Niall - 306 23mm bars (we WILL get 5 names so don't feel like a Jew)
4. c.gerrard - 306 size TBC
5. Matt - 23mm bars
6. Jack - 106 (unsure what size currently as its for a friend)
MMM Jack look at previous post you should be number 7.
sorted it!
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - Grant - 25-10-2012
FML want want want!
1. cwspellowe - 306 24mm bars
2. Jonny81191- 306 24mm bars
3. Niall - 306 23mm bars (we WILL get 5 names so don't feel like a Jew)
4. c.gerrard - 306 size TBC
5. Matt - 23mm bars
6.lisa306-23mm..TBC
7. Grant 306, 24mm aslong as we get more than 5 actually go through with this as I'm a tight lady garden
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - JackLewis_Dturbo - 25-10-2012
(25-10-2012, 03:14 PM)Grant Wrote: FML want want want!
1. cwspellowe - 306 24mm bars
2. Jonny81191- 306 24mm bars
3. Niall - 306 23mm bars (we WILL get 5 names so don't feel like a Jew)
4. c.gerrard - 306 size TBC
5. Matt - 23mm bars
6.lisa306-23mm..TBC
7. Grant 306, 24mm aslong as we get more than 5 actually go through with this as I'm a tight lady garden
your 8! lol
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - Grant - 25-10-2012
Whoops my bad mate, you snuck in whilst I was typing. Will correct it when i get in. Too much faff on my phone
RE: Custom torsion bars group buy - Just Sean - 25-10-2012
Ive put 23mm... But could someone explain what differences thicker bars will implicateon the ride/handling please?
1. cwspellowe - 306 24mm bars
2. Jonny81191- 306 24mm bars
3. Niall - 306 23mm bars (we WILL get 5 names so don't feel like a Jew)
4. c.gerrard - 306 size TBC
5. Matt - 23mm bars
6. lisa306-23mm..TBC
7. Jack TBC
8. Grant 306, 24mm aslong as we get more than 5 actually go through with this as I'm a tight lady garden
9. Sean 306 23mm