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Views on this guy? - cpikey316_ - 11-09-2012
Fighting for our rights? Or tax dodging dickhead?
Its quite long and in 3 parts!
RE: Views on this guy? - lewisdmz - 11-09-2012
dick'ead, cba to watch the whole thing but i'm guessing he doesn't pay road tax or insurance?
Close the loophole and he can f*ck right off.
RE: Views on this guy? - kyleo92 - 11-09-2012
Maybe I'm being a twat... But what's he got pulled over for and what was his excuse?
RE: Views on this guy? - vlj - 11-09-2012
He's just an argumentative twat. End of thread.
RE: Views on this guy? - Curt - 11-09-2012
What a prick.
Just watched more and that's one patient copper.
RE: Views on this guy? - THE_Liam - 11-09-2012
Douche
Want a laugh? Google "Freeman-on-the-land" forum. F*cking crackpots...
RE: Views on this guy? - Niall - 11-09-2012
What a dick head. By the sounds of it, the police are just doing a random document check which there more than entitled to do!
Fair play to the copper. I wouldn't of had that paitence!
RE: Views on this guy? - 1616six - 11-09-2012
I found this by accident last week, watched them all & would love to see what happened to him! What a twat!
RE: Views on this guy? - Niall - 11-09-2012
Ive just watched the whole thing.....im even getting pissed off watching this bloke. That copper has amazing patience to deal with him!
RE: Views on this guy? - lolsteve - 11-09-2012
He's chatting utter Sh" when dealing with the copper. He's a cheapskate who seems to think he's above the system, if he crashed into me and them claimed he doesn't exsist i'd be more than happy to make him "disapear"
RE: Views on this guy? - puglove - 12-09-2012
Dick. I hate people like that!
RE: Views on this guy? - Toms306 - 12-09-2012
Someone get that massive chip off his shoulder, prick.
RE: Views on this guy? - Strikeforce - 12-09-2012
He is obviously trying to get through a loop hole to not pay tax/mot/etc..
Wonder if he got payed his 20k fee to step out of his "automobile" lol,
RE: Views on this guy? - 306__xrdt - 12-09-2012
The Police man is only doing his jobb, i quess he has a wife and kiddz too and happy to come home again and chill out
RE: Views on this guy? - Mattcheese31 - 12-09-2012
i think it's interesting and the guy has got balls tbh . . . . . . the law is the law and if it's wrong then tough titty, i'm sure most of us get a little pissed at these so called eco cars falling under the zero tax bracket . . . . . . .fcuking things still wear down the tarmac though don't they? . . .
and yes i just watched the lot . .
RE: Views on this guy? - Toms306 - 12-09-2012
(12-09-2012, 10:19 AM)Mattcheese31 Wrote: i think it's interesting and the guy has got balls tbh . . . . . . the law is the law and if it's wrong then tough titty, i'm sure most of us get a little pissed at these so called eco cars falling under the zero tax bracket . . . . . . .fcuking things still wear down the tarmac though don't they? . . .
Interesting point here actually.......about wearing away tarmac, is that electric cars are actually much bigger and heavier than an equivalent petrol car....meaning they actually cause MORE road damage and pay zero road tax!
RE: Views on this guy? - Mattcheese31 - 12-09-2012
it's like this, i don't need a licence to draw a horse and carriage on the highway, nor do i need one for those old people's spaz chariots . . . . . . what happens if you get run into by a horse? . . . . .let's just open our minds here for a minute people, playing devil's advocate but just because you're used to something doesn't mean it's right . . .
RE: Views on this guy? - Niall - 12-09-2012
(12-09-2012, 10:32 AM)Mattcheese31 Wrote: it's like this, i don't need a licence to draw a horse and carriage on the highway, nor do i need one for those old people's spaz chariots . . . . . . what happens if you get run into by a horse? . . . . .let's just open our minds here for a minute people, playing devil's advocate but just because you're used to something doesn't mean it's right . . .
However them old people chariots are actually useless. Because there a powered veichle, they're not allowed on pavements but because they are powered, if they go on the road, they should have lights, indicators, mot, tax and insurance. How many do you see with that? I've seen a handful.
RE: Views on this guy? - Mattcheese31 - 12-09-2012
(12-09-2012, 10:56 AM)Niall Wrote:(12-09-2012, 10:32 AM)Mattcheese31 Wrote: it's like this, i don't need a licence to draw a horse and carriage on the highway, nor do i need one for those old people's spaz chariots . . . . . . what happens if you get run into by a horse? . . . . .let's just open our minds here for a minute people, playing devil's advocate but just because you're used to something doesn't mean it's right . . .
However those old people chariots are actually useless. Because they're a powered veichle, they're not allowed on pavements but because they are powered, if they go on the road, they should have lights, indicators, mot, tax and insurance. How many do you see with that? I've seen a handful.
bingo, that's what i'm saying mate . . . . . . . . and there's one or two would smoke my 306, fast as fcuk . .
RE: Views on this guy? - Niall - 12-09-2012
Haha yep I'd love to build a petrol one.
On a serious note, yes the guy is well within his rights to travel as he keeps saying but what he hasn't mentioned is that technically, you have to have permission to use the highways with a power veichle by means of tax and a licence if applicable.
All he's done there is blagged his way round by basically trying to confuse the copper with all sorts of terminology that probably wasn't even right!
The blokes a bell end and I do hope he gets done for no tax, licence, mot, Insurance or displaying his reg.
RE: Views on this guy? - Mattcheese31 - 12-09-2012
(12-09-2012, 11:04 AM)Niall Wrote: Haha yep I'd love to build a petrol one.
On a serious note, yes the guy is well within his rights to travel as he keeps saying but what he hasn't mentioned is that technically, you have to have permission to use the highways with a power veichle by means of tax and a licence if applicable.
All he's done there is blagged his way round by basically trying to confuse the copper with all sorts of terminology that probably wasn't even right!
The blokes a bell end and I do hope he gets done for no tax, licence, mot, Insurance or displaying his reg.
yeah i expect he will . . . .like to know what happened for sure though . . .
RE: Views on this guy? - Toms306 - 12-09-2012
Coaling the old people on them things so funny lol.....they shouldnt be on the road anyway haha.
Id also like to know what happened, bet he wont post what happened unless it went his way though!!
RE: Views on this guy? - lewisdmz - 12-09-2012
I wouldn't be surprised if he is correct and the loophole does exist, but he's still a selfish arsehole.
RE: Views on this guy? - THE_Liam - 12-09-2012
I remember something similar to this that a guy I went to college tried, I'll try explain it simply from memory...
Basically, it has to do with common law and statute law. Common law is the law of the land, and EVERYONE has to obey that, fact. It's part of our constitution (magna carta), but it's very basic and basically says that you can not harm another person in actions, words or dealings, and that you must conduct yourself in an honest and truthful way. But statute law is law formed by the government and monarchy, which apparently only applies if we accept it and are a subject of this country.
Apparently, the trick is, you have to send an affidavit signed in front of a solicitor or judge to the queen, giving her 40 days to solve the problems within parliament (you can give pretty much anything for this, ie corruption, for example the MP expenses scandal) or dissolve it. There's an article in the magna carta that allows you to do this. If she doesn't respond, solve the problems or dissolve parliament, you can send another affidavit asserting that you are now in a state of "lawful rebellion" until she acts upon your accusations, and are no longer a subject of the crown or government. My mate did this and apparently this meant that he was only under the jurisdiction of common law, and statute law (road traffic act for example, that covers almost every legal requirement of driving such as MOT, insurance, license) did not apply to him.
Funny enough, we used to egg him on to cancel his insurance and he never would...
RE: Views on this guy? - Scott - 12-09-2012
(12-09-2012, 03:16 PM)THE_Liam Wrote: Common law is the law of the land, and EVERYONE has to obey that, fact. It's part of our constitution (magna carta), but it's very basic and basically says that you can not harm another person in actions, words or dealings, and that you must conduct yourself in an honest and truthful way. But statute law is law formed by the government and monarchy, which apparently only applies if we accept it and are a subject of this country.Everyone has to obey all laws. We don't actually have a constitution as such, in the sense that there's no single defined document laying out the rights of every citizen. Our 'constitution' is laid out through various statutes and also European Law (for example the European Convention on Human Rights which was brought into UK law by the Human Rights Act 1998)
Common law is laws that are laid out as a result of cases heard at trial (i.e. by judges and in tribunals), which is why it's referred to as precedent or case-law. It serves the purpose to define statutes (laws passed by Parliament with Royal Assent) which are quite relaxed or don't cover certain situations. Laws are often passed without a strict definition to allow flexibility and discretion, but more importantly to ensure they don't go out of date extremely quickly.
You don't have to agree to statute law. By living in this country you are subject to its laws.
Note: I've not watched the video
Views on this guy? - THE_Liam - 12-09-2012
I'm not saying its right mate, just that it's what I guy I knew said and he'd never actually fully put himself to the test with it...
I personally think its bollocks, I can't see a loophole that huge being left open
RE: Views on this guy? - Scott - 12-09-2012
Yeah no worries mate, not trying to be a dick but I just thought I'd clarify in case anyone started getting ideas
Views on this guy? - THE_Liam - 12-09-2012
(12-09-2012, 07:14 PM)Scott Wrote: Yeah no worries mate, not trying to be a dick but I just thought I'd clarify in case anyone started getting ideas
Pity it's not real though...
RE: Views on this guy? - sweeney1987 - 12-09-2012
Personally hate the law in this f*cked up country im living in so going to watch it in full.
Interested to see outcome, i like the tresspassing on property thing, means technically customs cant lift uk reg cars....
