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More power - Matt - 13-04-2016
im bored of the Rallye already.
I'm thinking throttle bodies, but I want to go the bike body route rather the slap a set of jenveys on there, as I won't be able to afford the kit.
What sort of shopping list am I looking at?
Any links to pages/threads I can read?
Any help appreciated
RE: More power - welshpug - 13-04-2016
They'll cost just as much to do properly unless youre a fabricator or have mates that are.
RE: More power - Matt - 13-04-2016
Yeah looking at costs I think it might be better to buy something.
Been reading yannis thread over on the '6 forum and he covers a lot!
What throttle body setups are out there?
RE: More power - Xsikid - 14-04-2016
Why not look at low boost SC set up?
RE: More power - silverzx - 14-04-2016
(14-04-2016, 08:36 AM)Xsikid Wrote: Why not look at low boost SC set up?
Sounds easy enough.
RE: More power - welshpug - 14-04-2016
(13-04-2016, 11:32 PM)Matt Wrote: What throttle body setups are out there?
I wouldn't buy a kit, there's so many things you don't need and can make yourself with basic tools and save a bit of cash, and make more power.
Quote:satchell inlet £180
jenvey 45's with pq2 lever £380 for 118mm bodies, £420 for 92mm
home made cable bracket
shortened standard throttle cable
trumpets £90
backplate free from a mate, would cost £25 I think
itg filter £25 - used, £90 ish.
original fuel rail fpr and injectors. serviced.
jenvey fuel rail £62
clio iwp042's. used, serviced.
dta s40 ebay us £400, rrp £550
home made wiring loom £70, components and wire from harnessing solutions
aem wideband lambda £100 used, rrp £150
torques fuel lines and fittings £100
mapped by sandy brown £300
mef motorsport can help you with the jenvey and dta bits, and the loom if you don't fancy making it yourself.
That's copied from my recent post on the 6 forum.
That got me around 200 bhp 160 lbft on newman PH2's, power wise you wont be so far off that but down on the torque curve with a standard engine, that was on stock manifold cat and pattern exhaust.
sounds far better than a Rotrex, still does decent mpg, no cooling issues at all.
RE: More power - 7057sam - 14-04-2016
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=172163472760&alt=web
RE: More power - Matt - 14-04-2016
Nice one welshie!! That's an extensive shopping list!
And Sam I don't think they would work the bodies are too small, from what I've read
RE: More power - welshpug - 14-04-2016
indeed, they'd be ok on a mild 1600, so maybe an XU5 crank in an Mi16 or even a gti6.
RE: More power - ginge191 - 14-04-2016
R26.....
RE: More power - cully - 14-04-2016
for a quick cheap power to weight gain fit a light flywheel I'm really surprised how that has livened up my 6
RE: More power - Matt - 14-04-2016
Shutup Steve I'm trying to convince myself not too
Oh really? I've looked at lightened flys, it's just getting it fitted, never had the box off before
RE: More power - ginge191 - 15-04-2016
(14-04-2016, 06:32 PM)Matt Wrote: Shutup Steve I'm trying to convince myself not too
Oh really? I've looked at lightened flys, it's just getting it fitted, never had the box off before
Wheels are being refurbished
I'll even throw in a fresh MOT and service
RE: More power - kjmaido90 - 22-04-2016
Why not look at high boost SC set up?
RE: More power - miles - 22-04-2016
All very well with Boosting, Big issue are the gearbox's going pop and nothing can be done about it
RE: More power - Piggy - 22-04-2016
Xud11
/Canofworms
RE: More power - Xsikid - 22-04-2016
(22-04-2016, 10:41 PM)miles Wrote: All very well with Boosting, Big issue are the gearbox's going pop and nothing can be done about it
Mines not gone pop yet but it's not that much for a spare box :-)
RE: More power - Piggy - 22-04-2016
(22-04-2016, 10:41 PM)miles Wrote: All very well with Boosting, Big issue are the gearbox's going pop and nothing can be done about it
Fit the xud/hdi box? Not that I have personally had experience with that combo...but others have done it I believe
RE: More power - ginge191 - 23-04-2016
(22-04-2016, 10:52 PM)Piggy Wrote:(22-04-2016, 10:41 PM)miles Wrote: All very well with Boosting, Big issue are the gearbox's going pop and nothing can be done about it
Fit the xud/hdi box? Not that I have personally had experience with that combo...but others have done it I believe
I think the ratios are far too short for a revvy petrol... Especially how Matt drives
RE: More power - Piggy - 23-04-2016
Too short? Really?!?
2.5k rpm at 70mph for an hdi box in 5th... How is that too short?
RE: More power - Matt - 23-04-2016
(22-04-2016, 10:43 PM)Piggy Wrote: Xud11
/Canofworms
Don't even say that, I have considered it haha
(23-04-2016, 05:13 AM)ginge191 Wrote:(22-04-2016, 10:52 PM)Piggy Wrote:(22-04-2016, 10:41 PM)miles Wrote: All very well with Boosting, Big issue are the gearbox's going pop and nothing can be done about it
Fit the xud/hdi box? Not that I have personally had experience with that combo...but others have done it I believe
I think the ratios are far too short for a revvy petrol... Especially how Matt drives
RE: More power - welshpug - 23-04-2016
only bit I'd use from an xud11 is the crank.
"hdi" box wont be any stronger if you mean BE.
ML is an option but you're either stuck with standard ratios or very expensive stuff.
ml was used in high spec 306 rally cars in france, one step down from sequential
RE: More power - miles - 24-04-2016
As said the BE case and gear spec is not rated to suit boosted power, it's like how long is a piece of string as to how long it will last, there are options out there but not cheap, but you want power and as 99% of people have is overlooked the Box side of things, Gears have never been cheap
RE: More power - toseland - 25-04-2016
Wait.. 160ft/lb of torque? [InsertDefaultDieselSuperiorityCommentHere]
RE: More power - welshpug - 25-04-2016
torque is nothing without powerband.
RE: More power - Stef205 - 26-04-2016
nothing like a boosted petrol engine with a powerband
RE: More power - fatlapit - 24-05-2016
boost ftw, like miles said the box is the weakest link