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Which Diesel? - Toms306 - 18-08-2015
Ok so I've been using supermarket diesel a lot recently, and possibly unrelated, the Focus hasn't been overly happy... I've been fairly sceptical of different fuels benefits, just avoiding the higher veg ones like Morrisons, but the last 2 tanks have been Tesco and not having used Tesco before it's been noticeably lacking power with no faults stored (other than the usual DPF of course lol). Its also been doing the worst MPG so far on the computer and more regens than usual, despite the driving being no different to normal really, sounds rougher as well which I didn't think possible lol.
So I need fuel again (~50 miles left on range) and got 4 local stations and ALL are at 110.9p for diesel today so price is irrelevant - Sainsburys, Tesco, Texaco, BP...
Not tried Texaco before, any good? If not, is BP the best of that bunch or is there really no difference and its my imagination?
Tom
RE: Which Diesel? - Redordead89 - 18-08-2015
For me it's always Shell V power or BP ultimate and you know the job I do! 4-500 miles every week!
RE: Which Diesel? - Toms306 - 18-08-2015
I'm not made of money though lol, getting through twice as much diesel as I had budgeted for so can't be going premium unfortunately.
RE: Which Diesel? - 1616six - 18-08-2015
I use the 'brand' names where possible (Ie. Shell, BP, Texaco, Esso) but if it's supermarket then it's Tesco as I get Fuelsave (Until end of August
)I'd never use Morrisons again after the weird shite that came out of my tank in Peterborough. They denied all knowledge but it's not had a single issue since!
I am loving the fact that derv is cheaper than petrol.
Don't forget though the weather will have a slight bearing on your MPG Tom. I'm down to 48.1 at the moment which is awful although Amber has been driving it more & she's used to a revvy petrol which may have something to do with it.
RE: Which Diesel? - Toms306 - 18-08-2015
Fuelsave was the reason I'd been using Tesco for the last 2 tanks, think I got it down to about 106.9 lol! Not worked out much cheaper per mile with the reduction in mpg though.
I do agree about the weather, the Focus hates the heat, and especially having the AC on in the heat, trying to hold 70 in 5th uphill is a struggle like that lol (too much car, not enough engine!). But even in the cold evenings it's not as 'quick' as it used to be, was only 16c last night, barely any weight as there's sod all fuel and it still wouldn't pull as well as it usually does. Had only had a regen on the way out as well so the DPF should be clear enough. So I can only think the fuel has something to do with it, igniting too early maybe...
RE: Which Diesel? - bashbarnard - 18-08-2015
I use anything but then again i run an xud. My bosses jag hates anything but branded fuel! Stick asda fuel in it and it had a fit! Missing every so often when cruising. Stuck shell in it was fine. I think its down to the car as lus mum has used supermarket fuel in her bmw 1 since new its on 160k and never once has it had an issue with it.
RE: Which Diesel? - Dum-Dum - 18-08-2015
The Rallye seems to like Tesco Momentum 99 better than V Power.
I tend to use Tesco Diesel too, nearest and cheapest,
RE: Which Diesel? - Nathan1305 - 18-08-2015
I'm a shell fan. Just there regular diesel, I used tesco before as it was closest at the time and the DT did not like it what so ever. Started revving by itself slightly on the way home and a day later broke down with a blocked filter and loads of crap floating in the filter housing. Don't want to risk using it again so I've stuck with shell ever since and never had an issue. Plus I got I've 600 miles to a tank which was pretty good
RE: Which Diesel? - Toms306 - 18-08-2015
Well I was just about to reply to Bash and Chris saying it probably doesn't matter what you stick in an XUD/TUD...looks like I'm wrong there then!
I used to only use Shell when I had the Golf's, Vec and most of the HDi's, but switched to Sainsburys with the later HDis as I had less income and didn't seem to make any difference except a little extra coal on the boot lid (though I don't want extra coal in the DPF now). Shell points system is pretty poor and at least I get Nectar points on Sainsburys lol. The Shells always seem to be more expensive as well. Since getting the Focus I mostly used Sainsburys or BP until recently where I just use whatevers cheapest (being Tesco last time).
RE: Which Diesel? - bigcheez2k3 - 18-08-2015
I just put in whatever station I'm going past when I want fuel.
RE: Which Diesel? - Mattcheese31 - 18-08-2015
Shell is Best in my experience but use Tesco as fuel save means I get it for 90 odd ppl, I'm back on veg now fuel save is done at end of September though, 63ppl lol
RE: Which Diesel? - Toms306 - 18-08-2015
(18-08-2015, 11:50 AM)bigcheez2k3 Wrote: I just put in whatever station I'm going past when I want fuel.
I'll pass all 4 at some point in the next 2 days...how would you chose then?
RE: Which Diesel? - Iceman299 - 18-08-2015
I found the hdi to be happier on vpower diesel. It only costs a few pence extra, don't even notice the difference in cost
RE: Which Diesel? - Toms306 - 18-08-2015
Isn't it about 5p more for premium? So £2.50 more on a 50 litre fill. £5 more a month. Though as £0.003 more per mile that doesn't seem so bad lol.
I could try on of the premiums from the above stations I guess...not VPower though as the Shell's a lot more expensive locally.
RE: Which Diesel? - lolsteve - 18-08-2015
Pick whatever has the prettiest sign?
Never noticed any difference in any car ever. If it helps the time the zr felt 'best' on track was when it had tesco fuel and redex in so take from that what you will.
(18-08-2015, 11:01 AM)Dum-Dum Wrote: The Rallye seems to like Tesco Momentum 99 better than V Power.Isn't V Power only 97 Ron? Perhaps the 6' (fk the rallye) rated to 99 ron in standard form and just dials it back for the knock
RE: Which Diesel? - Toms306 - 18-08-2015
BP has the prettiest sign.
RE: Which Diesel? - Aky - 18-08-2015
I use bp mostly on my hdi. Also Miller Oils Eco Max helps with economy on mine, only fuel treatment that works imo.
RE: Which Diesel? - toseland - 18-08-2015
I tend to get more miles from one of the major brands (noticeably more - like 50-60) if I use shell Esso, Texaco or BP etc, than I do from supermarket fuel (with the exception of those esso branded tesco stations).. the exceptio to this is sainsburys which seem to give equivalent
RE: Which Diesel? - bigcheez2k3 - 18-08-2015
(18-08-2015, 11:52 AM)Toms306 Wrote:(18-08-2015, 11:50 AM)bigcheez2k3 Wrote: I just put in whatever station I'm going past when I want fuel.
I'll pass all 4 at some point in the next 2 days...how would you chose then?
Same way, whichever one I can be bothered to turn into.
RE: Which Diesel? - Matt-Rallye - 18-08-2015
I just bang whatever in the meg. It did feel alot smoother and more responsive on the shell vpower derv though.
Old HDi very rarely saw the pump. just a damn good mixture of scrap yard white derv at 50p a litre and tanks of red when payday was 2 weeks away and i was skint
fortunately those days are behind me and i was lucky enough never to be caught and dipped
RE: Which Diesel? - craig306 - 18-08-2015
V power all the way for me. It cleans out the fuel system so I hear.
RE: Which Diesel? - Eeyore - 18-08-2015
i try to always use shell... just because i worked there... and i lost my tesco clubcard so couldnt gain points there...
shell is also convenient for me. It doesnt particuarly matter where standard petrol is cheaper as a few pence doesnt make much difference.
RE: Which Diesel? - Toms306 - 18-08-2015
(18-08-2015, 03:11 PM)bigcheez2k3 Wrote:(18-08-2015, 11:52 AM)Toms306 Wrote:(18-08-2015, 11:50 AM)bigcheez2k3 Wrote: I just put in whatever station I'm going past when I want fuel.
I'll pass all 4 at some point in the next 2 days...how would you chose then?
Same way, whichever one I can be bothered to turn into.
I wish I could be as spontaneous as you...
RE: Which Diesel? - chylledapps - 18-08-2015
BP as a rule cos they do Nectar points
RE: Which Diesel? - Poodle - 19-08-2015
Shell, it's usually the next-best price to supermarkets around here and it's just better - mpg, power, NVH, etc.
RE: Which Diesel? - Magenta Sunset - 19-08-2015
generally I use my local ASDA - 1 mile away. Sometimes Tesco if i'm passing & I've my dad's tersco card to redeem the discount.
I would have thought I would come down to how much/often the garage is replenishing it's tanks (turnover) to flush out the crud.
RE: Which Diesel? - Toms306 - 19-08-2015
50 litres of BP and it's much happier! Won't bother with Tesco again in a hurry.
RE: Which Diesel? - Iceman299 - 19-08-2015
(19-08-2015, 10:17 AM)Toms306 Wrote: 50 litres of BP and it's much happier! Won't bother with Tesco again in a hurry.
Ultimate or standard? Actually, do they even do ultimate diesel
RE: Which Diesel? - Toms306 - 19-08-2015
They do do ultimate diesel but its 10p more per litre, so I stuck with the standard lol.
RE: Which Diesel? - Iceman299 - 19-08-2015
(19-08-2015, 10:26 AM)Toms306 Wrote: They do do ultimate diesel but its 10p more per litre, so I stuck with the standard lol.
That's why i prefer not to look at the price of vpower diesel, ignorance is bliss