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Turbo pipe??? - highwayman306 - 22-07-2015
What does this sound like to you if i describe this?....
When driving and i come off the accelerator i can hear a sucking noise which sounds like turbo, i put my foot back down and i hear the turbo spool as normal...but every time it spools and i take off throttle, the sucking noise come back
What do you guys think? Im leaning toward turbo pipe...bearing in mind that i haven't looked yet lol
cheers
RE: Turbo pipe??? - Poodle - 22-07-2015
How long does the noise go on for?
RE: Turbo pipe??? - craig306 - 22-07-2015
blocked exhaust, or a hole in the cat?? i have had that before. if it was a turbo pipe you would of lost power.
RE: Turbo pipe??? - MrBigMac - 22-07-2015
my hdi used to do the same, i never found a cause. since i have fitted the FMIC it not made the noise since. i would check the plastic inlet pipe .
RE: Turbo pipe??? - highwayman306 - 23-07-2015
that was changed by a mechanic about a year back...maybe il check this first
i fitted the exhaust, cat-back, and refitted it the other day, passed the MOT
i don't think that it's blocked as, when i boot it, there is a nice smoke screen caused by the dodgy maf i have fitted
it seems to be when i come off the accelerator and it lasts until i put my foot back on...When clutch is dipped it goes...if that helps any?
RE: Turbo pipe??? - craig306 - 23-07-2015
dose it do it in all gears??
RE: Turbo pipe??? - highwayman306 - 23-07-2015
yeah it does, I'm gonna go out in it soon and see what other info i can collate for y'all
its a funny one, car seems fine...apart from:the bad geometry from the rear mounts
smokey rear end
nackered beam
shot engine mounts
blah blah blah
RE: Turbo pipe??? - Poodle - 23-07-2015
How about at a standstill? Could be the release bearing.
RE: Turbo pipe??? - highwayman306 - 25-07-2015
No noise at standstill
or i couldn't hear it...i was in 2nd gear and i was doing around 25mph/ish...the revs were high, the turbo spooling...when i take my foot off the throttle it sounds like its a sucking noise
The f*cking EML light came on last night too now lol i really need a pp2000
RE: Turbo pipe??? - Poodle - 25-07-2015
Tbh sounds a lot like a boost leak, especially with the eml and if you're smoking a lot, but that wouldn't explain why it goes when the clutch is depressed.
RE: Turbo pipe??? - highwayman306 - 26-07-2015
I could just be me...the revs are already on the way down when i dip clutch, so that would lower the EGs and the turbo would slow down reducing (what little) pressure i might have in the system, leading to the reduction of the noise....? Does this make sense?
Il have to get back under the car when the weather is better and take a butchers.
Im also thinking of a possible hole in the cat suggest by craig earlier...that could also be feasible...
I didn't know the eml light could come on if there was a boost leak?
RE: Turbo pipe??? - HDi--Power - 26-07-2015
You have a leak after the maf possibly?
RE: Turbo pipe??? - craig306 - 26-07-2015
(26-07-2015, 11:40 AM)highwayman306 Wrote: I could just be me...the revs are already on the way down when i dip clutch, so that would lower the EGs and the turbo would slow down reducing (what little) pressure i might have in the system, leading to the reduction of the noise....? Does this make sense?
Il have to get back under the car when the weather is better and take a butchers.
Im also thinking of a possible hole in the cat suggest by craig earlier...that could also be feasible...
I didn't know the eml light could come on if there was a boost leak?
thats what i had, i hole in the exhaust right before the cat. so take a look when the rain stops
RE: Turbo pipe??? - highwayman306 - 27-07-2015
This car is starting to piss me off now, with all the things i need to do on it, its looking cheaper to scrap it off
i don't want to but its looming on the horizon.Everything that has rubber needs replacing, beam needs replacing, wishbone bushes are fooked, turbo is singing for too long, MAF screwed... i could go on lol
15 year old car... needs some TLC but money permits
RE: Turbo pipe??? - cully - 27-07-2015
you could always buy another 15 year old car that needs beam, wishbone bushes, turbo, MAF...
Turbo pipe??? - td_dan - 27-07-2015
Hoard the parts you need then come over to mine and we will get it all done at once, dont worry bout money we will sort something
RE: Turbo pipe??? - craig306 - 27-07-2015
(27-07-2015, 06:07 AM)highwayman306 Wrote: This car is starting to piss me off now, with all the things i need to do on it, its looking cheaper to scrap it off
Everything that has rubber needs replacing, beam needs replacing, wishbone bushes are fooked, turbo is singing for too long, MAF screwed... i could go on lol
15 year old car... needs some TLC but money permits
well, if you scrap the car you will need to buy a diff one, so it might be worth pricing up what is needed to be done, as might be cheaper to repair what you got, than buying a new car. and on the plus side, when its all done you got a good car.
when i got my 306 on a v reg, was told its been well looked after, but ive have to do the clutch the first week i had it, then cambelt water pump, rear shocks full exhaust, service, and i still got front shocks to do plus front wish bones,
RE: Turbo pipe??? - highwayman306 - 27-07-2015
I'm still running original clutch, so that needs doing, rear beam, all ALL the mounts and bushes, eml, shocks...the list goes on lol I love this car but I just can't afford the parts...baby is due September
RE: Turbo pipe??? - craig306 - 27-07-2015
(27-07-2015, 12:02 PM)highwayman306 Wrote: I'm still running original clutch, so that needs doing, rear beam, all ALL the mounts and bushes, eml, shocks...the list goes on lol I love this car but I just can't afford the parts...baby is due September
put a list together and price it up, how much you got to spend on a new car???
RE: Turbo pipe??? - Poodle - 27-07-2015
This is why it's better to stay on top of the "little" jobs.
The way i see it you've got two options:
A - Commit to this one and fix her up piece by piece as necessary
B - Resign yourself to driving sheds with a long mot until you can afford option A
From experience option B usually ends up costing just as much/more than A anyway.
RE: Turbo pipe??? - highwayman306 - 27-07-2015
(27-07-2015, 12:36 PM)Poodle Wrote: This is why it's better to stay on top of the "little" jobs. [emoji38]Exactly that
The way i see it you've got two options:
A - Commit to this one and fix her up piece by piece as necessary
B - Resign yourself to driving sheds with a long mot until you can afford option A
From experience option B usually ends up costing just as much/more than A anyway.
I would have to sell one to by t'other...its all just pants lol
Turbo pipe??? - td_dan - 27-07-2015
Write up a list and send it to me ill get my mate to get a price staff price from gsf its wont be as bad as you think just prioritise
RE: Turbo pipe??? - highwayman306 - 27-07-2015
Ok cheers dan, I'm working on the list now but some things would need diagnosing not just pp2000-wise but those knocks and rattles... the more i read Craig's comments the more I'm convincing myself there's a hole or break somewhere on the zorst...
Il start the list off and update/edit it as i find stuff
So far, from my own diagnosis:
Wishbone bushes (front ones as i have P bushes ready)
Engine mounts (all)
Rear beam mounts
Rear beam
Standard air box (running k&n atm... grrr)
MAF sensor (second hand one is fitted and there doesn't seem to be a choke on the power so i think its ok atm)
Break bleed nipples (f*cked on all but one rear)
Drive shafts (clunky on lock with one boot split... but passed MOT???)
Strut bearings (very dry sounding when steering)
Things to diagnose:
Noises mentioned in 1st post
EML
Bang/rattle from underneath (possible sway from shitty engine mounts causing zorst movement?)
Creaky noises from inside car at rear (more than likely the beam mounts and/or beam?)
So, not much then
cheers for the help ladsWHAT A PROJECT!
RE: Turbo pipe??? - Poodle - 27-07-2015
That does sound like a full on dog tbf, perhaps B is the better option in this case lol.
RE: Turbo pipe??? - highwayman306 - 27-07-2015
Engine pulls fines though
, the car corners a bit iffy with the dodgy mounts but i really like the car, have done for 5 years and the 30k I've done in it. I could do most of the work myself but with it being my daily and severe lack of funds i can't get the parts for it. I don't want it going to rack and ruin, I have always said 'il be the last owner of that car'...I wish i could take it off the road and 'restore' it back to its former glory
RE: Turbo pipe??? - Iceman299 - 27-07-2015
Can always buy my 306
RE: Turbo pipe??? - craig306 - 27-07-2015
(27-07-2015, 03:36 PM)highwayman306 Wrote: Ok cheers dan, I'm working on the list now but some things would need diagnosing not just pp2000-wise but those knocks and rattles... the more i read Craig's comments the more I'm convincing myself there's a hole or break somewhere on the zorst...
Il start the list off and update/edit it as i find stuff
So far, from my own diagnosis:
Wishbone bushes (front ones as i have P bushes ready)
Engine mounts (all)
Rear beam mounts
Rear beam
Standard air box (running k&n atm... grrr)
MAF sensor (second hand one is fitted and there doesn't seem to be a choke on the power so i think its ok atm)
Break bleed nipples (f*cked on all but one rear)
Drive shafts (clunky on lock with one boot split... but passed MOT???)
Strut bearings (very dry sounding when steering)
Things to diagnose:
Noises mentioned in 1st post
EML
Bang/rattle from underneath (possible sway from shitty engine mounts causing zorst movement?)
Creaky noises from inside car at rear (more than likely the beam mounts and/or beam?)
So, not much then
WHAT A PROJECT!
when was the MOT???
RE: Turbo pipe??? - highwayman306 - 27-07-2015
Three weeks back craig
How much ice? lol
RE: Turbo pipe??? - Iceman299 - 27-07-2015
(27-07-2015, 04:42 PM)highwayman306 Wrote: Three weeks back craig
How much ice? lol
Not 100% sure yet. Just had it's mot today and needs a new lower ball joint. Could've been worse i suppose lol
i'd scrap/sell it and buy one in better condition if i were in your shoes
RE: Turbo pipe??? - MY95 - 27-07-2015
Sounds like quite a project indeed
, depends how attached you are to the car/what else is available to you on whether you keep or sell and find something new.How in three weeks has that long list of parts needing fixed/changed appeared? Surely they would have failed it on the MOT on most of those things if they were bad?