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Solid beam mounts - Frosty - 11-05-2015
I got some BM baker solid beam mounts back along 2nd hand. I cant decide wether to fit them or not. I drive on quite a lot of rough roads so i cant decide.
Just want to know the pros and cons of having them fitted
RE: Solid beam mounts - Ben - 11-05-2015
I've not driven with them but if you drive a lot of bumpy roads I would guess you'd be better of with standard mounts. From what people say solid mounts are more predictable and you don't get the lift off oversteer like you would with rubber. Cabbin noise, and harshness for rear passengers would also increase slightly.
RE: Solid beam mounts - Jonny81191 - 11-05-2015
Do it, I doubt you'll notice the extra harshness, and they make the handling IMHO much sharper in the corners when pushing hard/on track. You will get LOOS, but you'll have more ultimate grip before the rear lets go however it will be less progressive when it does.
RE: Solid beam mounts - luke306rallye - 11-05-2015
Loads better than standard mounts, fit and forget.
I drive mine daily with 23.5mm torsion bars and hybrid ARB
RE: Solid beam mounts - titch - 11-05-2015
I have them on mine, can't say i noticed any more road noise or harshness really and i prefer they way it drives now i wouldn't fit rubber mounts again mine is a daily work horse and i do 600 - 800 miles a week, but some people prefer the original mounts, its each to their own really.
RE: Solid beam mounts - aggyj17 - 11-05-2015
I had a set of these didn't notice it any harsher and made the rear more stable imo
RE: Solid beam mounts - Poodle - 12-05-2015
I don't like the way they drive, you lose a lot of the passive rear steer, which just makes the back-end feel a bit like dead weight. As others have said, oversteer becomes a lot more snappy too. Definitely detracts from the chuckability and character imo, will benefit from them if you just want better lap times though.
RE: Solid beam mounts - 7057sam - 12-05-2015
Yeah when it goes it goes!,but I feel I can push more.definitely makes mine more stable and abit more predictable
RE: Solid beam mounts - Eeyore - 12-05-2015
Ill be fitting mine soon!
RE: Solid beam mounts - Chr1sch - 19-05-2015
I have had them since i bought the car, oversteer is bloody lovely
- do it
RE: Solid beam mounts - Frosty - 01-06-2015
Ill just keep them to 1 side for when i ever drop the beam and fit them then i reckon
RE: Solid beam mounts - aaron6 - 12-06-2015
Solid mounts are alright. I prefered the way passive mounts take tight corners. You get a much a much better turn in. Solid mounts are good for people who are nervous of the back moving as with passive mounts if you go hard enough it can feel like the backs letting go but it isn't. Or if it feels squirmy, go quicker. It'll stop. I don't believe that that the solids produce more grip either. They just give it to you differently.
RE: Solid beam mounts - mr_fish - 12-06-2015
Frosty just needs to man up and fit them IMHO
RE: Solid beam mounts - aaron6 - 13-06-2015
Nah, sell them and grow some balls. Lol
RE: Solid beam mounts - Niall - 13-06-2015
Ive only very briefly driven a car with solid beam mounts but i do love the passive rear steer from standard mounts. Dont think i would buy solids tbh
RE: Solid beam mounts - Pebbles167 - 13-06-2015
I had solids on my old Rallye. Great track mod, but i wouldn't want them at all unless the car was to be primarily for circuit use.
Solid beam mounts - Frosty - 14-06-2015
Hmm not so sure on fitting them now lol
RE: Solid beam mounts - Pebbles167 - 14-06-2015
They are not that bad, they are just not really designed for road use.
In a track car with thick torsion and anti roll bars, stiff shocks and springs, stripped interior and race seats, they are horrible on the road.
On a car with more road focus, ie: few smaller mods here and there, it will just mean the car is a bit noiser and feels like the rear beam is knackered. That said, it will do its intended purpose and firm the back end up, although many don't fit them to keep the characteristics of the rubber mounts.
No doubt partly due to a few of my other mods, but I found that with the solids on the road i could corner like a lunatic and lift off wherever i wanted. In a standard 6 I'd have been in a hedge.
RE: Solid beam mounts - Jonny81191 - 14-06-2015
(14-06-2015, 08:43 AM)Pebbles167 Wrote: They are not that bad, they are just not really designed for road use.
In a track car with thick torsion and anti roll bars, stiff shocks and springs, stripped interior and race seats, they are horrible on the road.
On a car with more road focus, ie: few smaller mods here and there, it will just mean the car is a bit noiser and feels like the rear beam is knackered. That said, it will do its intended purpose and firm the back end up, although many don't fit them to keep the characteristics of the rubber mounts.
No doubt partly due to a few of my other mods, but I found that with the solids on the road i could corner like a lunatic and lift off wherever i wanted. In a standard 6 I'd have been in a hedge.
Eh? if it feels like the beam's knackered, that's because it is. Not because you've fitted solid mounts
RE: Solid beam mounts - Pebbles167 - 14-06-2015
Haha! Vibrations, knocking, noise. That's what i was trying to get at. I drove a 106 with a ruined beam and it made many noises, none of them good!
RE: Solid beam mounts - cully - 14-06-2015
dont get any knocking noise from the rear of mine with solid mounts havent noticed any more noise in the car!
mind i have got a vibratec lower engine mount that is drowning most noise made by anything
RE: Solid beam mounts - aaron6 - 15-06-2015
I had no issue using solid mounts on the road. They do quell the back end movement. I just simply prefer the car handling how it was originally designed to. Not only that but you gotta wonder where the forces normally soaked up by the rubber mounts goes. My guess is its transferred to the next weak point which as I see it will be the beam bearings.