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6 gearbox question - mackat - 18-04-2015
Took the gearbox off to transfer onto my other engine and in the process thought I'd clean it up a little.
In doing so I undid all the bolts holding the 3 sections together.
Cleaned it up, painted it - all good.. but when I start to tighten down the bolts it goes into gear and I can't get it out.
With the bolts loose, I can move it in/out of gear.
I'm I doing something wrong?
Also at which position is natural?
Thanks
RE: 6 gearbox question - Niall - 19-04-2015
Which bolts are we talking about here?
RE: 6 gearbox question - Toms306 - 19-04-2015
Looks like he removed the bellhosing and end cover thing from the mid section... That is some serious effort for a clean up!
RE: 6 gearbox question - mackat - 19-04-2015
Not sure on the names of the parts but... a picture is worth a thousand words
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The bolts on that picture aren't tightened up, there's about a mm or two gap on both sections. The gear selector gives a satisfying cluck when moving through the gears.
As soon as I tighten everything up, gets locked into gear.
I'd need to check but the gear selector should go in/out as well as side-to-side, I don't think it's doing this.
(19-04-2015, 10:37 AM)Toms306 Wrote: That is some serious effort for a clean up!
Bolts where dirty.. and yes, I tend to be a little anal at times
RE: 6 gearbox question - miles - 19-04-2015
Well it all needs stripping down now as it will leak like a b*****d as you've broken the seal's, The selection also get's moved when doing this so something hasn't gone back as it should inside
RE: 6 gearbox question - mackat - 19-04-2015
aha.. thanking you!
I take it I need new seals?
would this be any good for creating new seals: http://www.halfords.com/motoring-travel/cleaning-body-repair/adhesives/granville-silicone-sealant-clear-40g
RE: 6 gearbox question - mackat - 19-04-2015
Just checked servicebox and no seals - the gearbox was drained when I took it off the engine, plus I have new oil for it.
Will get it on the bench next weekend and have proper look
RE: 6 gearbox question - miles - 20-04-2015
It needs a complete strip down with the internal gears removed, which mean 5 and 6 need to come out, not knowing what your like with spanners it's hard to say if you'll get it working again
Oil must be a 75/80
RE: 6 gearbox question - mackat - 20-04-2015
Ahhh.. not something I've done before, but up for a challenge I suppose.
Have the 2lt of Pro FE 75W from Peugeot.
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RE: 6 gearbox question - mackat - 25-04-2015
OK - proving rather difficult to get inside the gearbox. I've had a quick search for a guide but nothing specific has turned, does anyone know of one?
RE: 6 gearbox question - zx_volcane - 26-04-2015
(25-04-2015, 01:29 PM)mackat Wrote: OK - proving rather difficult to get inside the gearbox. I've had a quick search for a guide but nothing specific has turned, does anyone know of one?
you'll prob need some specialist tools / gear pullers to get the box properly apart
RE: 6 gearbox question - mackat - 26-04-2015
(26-04-2015, 09:19 AM)zx_volcane Wrote:(25-04-2015, 01:29 PM)mackat Wrote: OK - proving rather difficult to get inside the gearbox. I've had a quick search for a guide but nothing specific has turned, does anyone know of one?
you'll prob need some specialist tools / gear pullers to get the box properly apart
Bugger!
Making room this afternoon to work on it inside, I think I can see where I need to start.
RE: 6 gearbox question - HDi--Power - 26-04-2015
I think you need to cut your losses and get another box
RE: 6 gearbox question - zx_volcane - 26-04-2015
(26-04-2015, 11:05 AM)mackat Wrote: Bugger!
Making room this afternoon to work on it inside, I think I can see where I need to start.
I can see this ending with a crowbar and a sledgehammer ...
RE: 6 gearbox question - mackat - 26-04-2015
(26-04-2015, 03:42 PM)zx_volcane Wrote:(26-04-2015, 11:05 AM)mackat Wrote: Bugger!
Making room this afternoon to work on it inside, I think I can see where I need to start.
I can see this ending with a crowbar and a sledgehammer ...
Mind reader!
So, no way of unbolting those:
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Looks like I'll have to punch out that retaining clip and fingers crossed the outer gear will come off:
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(26-04-2015, 02:39 PM)HDi--Power Wrote: I think you need to cut your losses and get another box
Noooo a challenge I see!
....then another box
RE: 6 gearbox question - Seb_Ryan - 27-04-2015
For that nut in top pic it looks like a normal 12 sided socket will do
RE: 6 gearbox question - welshpug - 27-04-2015
yep, youll need to buy one, not a size many will have already but halfords did have them when I started mucking about with gearboxes.
RE: 6 gearbox question - Toms306 - 27-04-2015
This isn't going to end well...
RE: 6 gearbox question - mackat - 26-05-2015
(27-04-2015, 09:50 AM)Toms306 Wrote: This isn't going to end well...
You're right it wasn't going to end well.
Thanks to Miles and welshpug for their help and suggestions.
Rather than take a sledgehammer to the box I took it to a gearbox specialist who slapped my wrist and told me never touch a gearbox again!
Oil feeder and reverse had come loose and was stopping me closing it up again.
All fixed and working very, very well.
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