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106 cutting out! - Nathan1305 - 08-04-2015
So took the 106 for a quick spin today and not happy with how it running. It feels a little slow to be honest and after its bee running a while the oil light flickers on when idling then when you apply a bit of throttle it disappears again. Plus the engine light come on when idling but when you Rev it it disappears. Then when idling it sometimes drops a little low and occasionally cuts out. Little nervous as Spring action isn't to far away and I don't want it braking down on track.
Any idea what could be the issue?
RE: 106 cutting out! - Piggy - 08-04-2015
Oil level!?
RE: 106 cutting out! - 1616six - 08-04-2015
It's NA so considering you drive a tuned XUD it's gonna feel slow due to the reduced torque.
I'd check oil level. Also when did it last have an oil change? Don't want to get a blocked strainer/pickup and end up with oil starvation.
Did it get up to temp? Considering it's been unused for months it's worth letting it get right up to temp.
RE: 106 cutting out! - Seb_Ryan - 08-04-2015
If its not what piggy says it could be oil pump..lack of pressure
RE: 106 cutting out! - Nathan1305 - 08-04-2015
I'll try some oil and if that doesn't help then I'll try the pump
thanks guys
Re: RE: 106 cutting out! - Seb_Ryan - 08-04-2015
(08-04-2015, 10:37 PM)Nathan1305 Wrote: I'll try some oil and if that doesn't help then I'll try the pump
Be wary if its overful aswell, happened on my parents xsara, hg went and dumped alot of coolant into in, within 5 miles it was knocking its tits off lol
RE: 106 cutting out! - Nathan1305 - 08-04-2015
(08-04-2015, 10:42 PM)Seb_Ryan Wrote:(08-04-2015, 10:37 PM)Nathan1305 Wrote: I'll try some oil and if that doesn't help then I'll try the pump
Be wary if its overful aswell, happened on my parents xsara, hg went and dumped alot of coolant into in, within 5 miles it was knocking its tits off lol
I'll give it a look tomorrow
I think I have some oil left from the 306 so will put some in if its low
RE: 106 cutting out! - Nathan1305 - 09-04-2015
So checked the oil and it's fine, very fresh actually. Did a little research and it could be a mix of things but people have said it could be the oil pressure switch, it's only a few quid so could be worth replacing?
RE: 106 cutting out! - Toms306 - 09-04-2015
Might be worth checking the oil switch plug is clean, as its sat for a while could've got damp and corroded slightly. If not then yeah probably worth changing.
RE: 106 cutting out! - Nathan1305 - 09-04-2015
(09-04-2015, 04:09 PM)Toms306 Wrote: Might be worth checking the oil switch plug is clean, as its sat for a while could've got damp and corroded slightly. If not then yeah probably worth changing.
Doesn't look in the best of condition so just got another one ordered
will fit it and see if that fixes it
RE: 106 cutting out! - andyyy - 11-04-2015
Sounds like a earth issue to me, had similar probs with my 106 check all the earth in the engine bay. Also on the rear light cluster I had a mixture of both.
RE: 106 cutting out! - Nathan1305 - 11-04-2015
(11-04-2015, 08:36 AM)andyyy Wrote: Sounds like a earth issue to me, had similar probs with my 106 check all the earth in the engine bay. Also on the rear light cluster I had a mixture of both.
Thanks mate
do you know where the earths are on a 106?
RE: 106 cutting out! - Dum-Dum - 11-04-2015
Does sound like earth or possibly alternator.
RE: 106 cutting out! - Nathan1305 - 11-04-2015
(11-04-2015, 09:48 AM)Dum-Dum Wrote: Does sound like earth or possibly alternator.
But why will it only happen when driving? I can leave it on idle for ages and rev it and nothing happens. It's only when being driven around, I've bought an oil pressure sensor so will fit that tomorrow and see if that helps
RE: 106 cutting out! - Niall - 11-04-2015
Despite the fact peugeots are known for their poor electrics, do NOT ignore a oil pressure light. Normally, the oil pressure light only comes on at 1 bar or below which is far too little so you need to check ASAP its not a oil pressure issue. Check the level first. Secondly i would replace the switch if you have a spare and failing that, look at the pump although its quite rare pumps fail.
Considering its coupled with a sluggish feeling car, i have a feeling it could well be a electrical issue. Have fun with that! Painted anything at all that an earth is connected to recently?
RE: 106 cutting out! - Pebbles167 - 11-04-2015
My 306 had a similar problem, turned out twice to be the MAP sensor, and on one occasion the ICV. Do 106's use either of these?
My 106 gti had issues like this, but it was obviously running on 3 cylinders sometimes, so probably unrelated. I replaced coil pack and spark plugs and ran better. Might be worth you cleaning them up and testing them too? 5 minute job, and will do it some good anyway.
RE: 106 cutting out! - Nathan1305 - 11-04-2015
(11-04-2015, 10:07 AM)Niall Wrote: Despite the fact peugeots are known for their poor electrics, do NOT ignore a oil pressure light. Normally, the oil pressure light only comes on at 1 bar or below which is far too little so you need to check ASAP its not a oil pressure issue. Check the level first. Secondly i would replace the switch if you have a spare and failing that, look at the pump although its quite rare pumps fail.
Considering its coupled with a sluggish feeling car, i have a feeling it could well be a electrical issue. Have fun with that! Painted anything at all that an earth is connected to recently?
I haven't really touched the engine, and what things can be linked with low oil pressure? Oil level is perfect and really fresh, got a switch yesterday so will fit that and I'll check the earths I can see. But I have no idea what to do after that
(11-04-2015, 10:12 AM)Pebbles167 Wrote: My 306 had a similar problem, turned out twice to be the MAP sensor, and on one occasion the ICV. Do 106's use either of these?
Yeah I believe it has both, I'll check ECP. If their cheap enough I'll replace them.
(11-04-2015, 10:12 AM)Pebbles167 Wrote: My 306 had a similar problem, turned out twice to be the MAP sensor, and on one occasion the ICV. Do 106's use either of these?
My 106 gti had issues like this, but it was obviously running on 3 cylinders sometimes, so probably unrelated. I replaced coil pack and spark plugs and ran better. Might be worth you cleaning them up and testing them too? 5 minute job, and will do it some good anyway.
Map sensor is around £50 :/
RE: 106 cutting out! - Niall - 11-04-2015
Oil pressure is pretty much either a chronic leak which you would obviously notice or a failing oil pump. Not overly difficult to replace and like i say, its rare they go wrong but they still do!
Pebbles makes a good point about coil pack. They are crap the coil packs they use on these so may be worth trying a new one if you want.
RE: 106 cutting out! - Pebbles167 - 11-04-2015
Don't 106's have a problem with the oil pressure? Causes them to run proper rough and cut out, etc.
Edit: Can't remember the conditions, reresearching now.
RE: 106 cutting out! - Nathan1305 - 11-04-2015
Yeah to be fair mines running shit, feels sluggish. But not sure if that's because I'm use to my DT. I've heard that the coil pack can be the cause of one of the issues I'm having so may have to replace that for FCS. I'll drive it as is for Action Day and that way I can see what issues I have
RE: 106 cutting out! - Dum-Dum - 12-04-2015
Didn't you say you had a tiny racing battery and it's relocated. Where is your relocation earthed, my estate wanted 3 earths on the relocation before it was happy but my black 3dr only wanted 1.
Does that battery actually have enough power and is it in good condition?
RE: 106 cutting out! - Nathan1305 - 12-04-2015
(12-04-2015, 10:04 AM)Dum-Dum Wrote: Didn't you say you had a tiny racing battery and it's relocated. Where is your relocation earthed, my estate wanted 3 earths on the relocation before it was happy but my black 3dr only wanted 1.
Does that battery actually have enough power and is it in good condition?
No it's not been relocated I will be doing it soon, and I think the battery is okay starts fine and seems to hold charge well
RE: 106 cutting out! - Rippthrough - 18-04-2015
TPS and MAP sensor are quite common for causing it as the engine speed drops below idle for a split second and the oil pressure light comes on when the oil is warm and thinned out. Definatly check earths, etc, as well though.
RE: 106 cutting out! - Nathan1305 - 18-04-2015
(18-04-2015, 12:17 AM)Rippthrough Wrote: TPS and MAP sensor are quite common for causing it as the engine speed drops below idle for a split second and the oil pressure light comes on when the oil is warm and thinned out. Definatly check earths, etc, as well though.
I'll check them out I've changed the oil pressure sensor so when I can take it for a spin I'll see if it's helped out
RE: 106 cutting out! - WukaChop - 31-10-2015
EDIT:
Misread date, sorry, thought this was recent!
Mess with your ICV too, usual culprit for cutting out.