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GTI6 / Mi16 Hybrid!? - ginge191 - 09-04-2012
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peugeot-Mi16- ... 2a1bcb8b57
Just come across this as looking at engine prices for my super dooper secret project which no one will ever know about because i keep secrets like a douche... oh wait, no i dont... a turbo'd gti project.
Anyones opinions on this bottom end besides the weight...??
Re: GTI6 / Mi16 Hybrid!? - Ruan - 09-04-2012
If you're boosting, its kinda pointless, you could build a better block for less than what he wants for that engine, if you look at my posts regarding nialls engine, I've already probably mentioned what I think should be done with regard to XU blocks.. that's a great start for a big power NA motor, but as I've always said, keep the revs up and the torque down, petrols arent designed for the torque theyll put down with a turbocharger... That's why the lynx high boosters are so reliable...
Re: GTI6 / Mi16 Hybrid!? - Grant - 09-04-2012
If people came camping they would know of super dooper secret projects that the rest of you will never know about until FCS
Re: GTI6 / Mi16 Hybrid!? - 4WayDiablo - 09-04-2012
Think he's bluffing and there isn't one
But the hybrid sounds good
Re: GTI6 / Mi16 Hybrid!? - ginge191 - 09-04-2012
Ruan Wrote:If you're boosting, its kinda pointless, you could build a better block for less than what he wants for that engine, if you look at my posts regarding nialls engine, I've already probably mentioned what I think should be done with regard to XU blocks.. that's a great start for a big power NA motor, but as I've always said, keep the revs up and the torque down, petrols arent designed for the torque theyll put down with a turbocharger... That's why the lynx high boosters are so reliable...
Yeh, im just really looking for a basic block to start building, then drop it into a shell...
Understandable and respect to all the Lynx boosters, but i really wanted to turbo this block, not necessairly for the torque, but for tuning experience, and in all honesty, have never even considered looking into the SC kits.
I'll go have a read through nialls pages, see whats been mentioned through there.
cheers
Re: GTI6 / Mi16 Hybrid!? - Niall - 09-04-2012
There is a lot of useful info from Ruan in a post I started in the XU section.
I would absolutely love to turbo my engine just because boost is so fun ( as I'm sure your aware!) but costing is a big factor.
Re: GTI6 / Mi16 Hybrid!? - ginge191 - 09-04-2012
Niall Wrote:There is a lot of useful info from Ruan in a post I started in the XU section.
I would absolutely love to turbo my engine just because boost is so fun ( as I'm sure your aware!) but costing is a big factor.
which thread exactly? i trawled your project thread and couldnt find any ruan posts?? :|
Re: GTI6 / Mi16 Hybrid!? - 4WayDiablo - 09-04-2012
ginge191 Wrote:thats because it wasnt in his project threadNiall Wrote:There is a lot of useful info from Ruan in a post I started in the XU section.
I would absolutely love to turbo my engine just because boost is so fun ( as I'm sure your aware!) but costing is a big factor.
which thread exactly? i trawled your project thread and couldnt find any ruan posts?? :|
it was something along the lines of head rebuild
Re: GTI6 / Mi16 Hybrid!? - 4WayDiablo - 09-04-2012
breif search... i think it was this one
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Re: GTI6 / Mi16 Hybrid!? - ginge191 - 09-04-2012
Ok, Ruan, you talk a lot specifying onto nialls 1.8 "hybrid" if you like, what benefits would the 1.8 bottom / GTI head have compared to a stock GTI engine?
sorry, but questions may start randomly flaying
Re: GTI6 / Mi16 Hybrid!? - Niall - 09-04-2012
ginge191 Wrote:Ok, Ruan, you talk a lot specifying onto nialls 1.8 "hybrid" if you like, what benefits would the 1.8 bottom / GTI head have compared to a stock GTI engine?
sorry, but questions may start randomly flaying
Never did look into how well the gti head would go onto the 1.8 bottom. Bore size is 2mm different but not sure how much of a problem this will be.
Mi16 head however will go on but finding one at the right price could be fun!
Re: GTI6 / Mi16 Hybrid!? - Ruan - 09-04-2012
The stroke of the 1.8 is shorter, it's lighter still than an Mi block... Less stroke = more revvy + less torque... That displacement reduction is made up for by a turbo... They're dry liner too, so lovely and strong, but still light weight...
The XU10 is 86x86 - a "square" engine... The XU7 is 83x81.4mm - making it undersquare... I.e. it'll rev harder, you've got less purchase on the rods as they're shorter, giving you more inherent strength in the rods...
That's why WRC rally cars use them as a base block...
GTi6/S16 head bolts straight on with no problems, looked into it a good bit... You can always get valves for a T16 that would suit turbocharging... The T16 uses sodium filled exhaust valves - should fit an S16 head, unsure on a GTi6 head.
Re: GTI6 / Mi16 Hybrid!? - ginge191 - 10-04-2012
Ruan Wrote:The stroke of the 1.8 is shorter, it's lighter still than an Mi block... Less stroke = more revvy + less torque... That displacement reduction is made up for by a turbo... They're dry liner too, so lovely and strong, but still light weight...
The XU10 is 86x86 - a "square" engine... The XU7 is 83x81.4mm - making it undersquare... I.e. it'll rev harder, you've got less purchase on the rods as they're shorter, giving you more inherent strength in the rods...
That's why WRC rally cars use them as a base block...
GTi6/S16 head bolts straight on with no problems, looked into it a good bit... You can always get valves for a T16 that would suit turbocharging... The T16 uses sodium filled exhaust valves - should fit an S16 head, unsure on a GTi6 head.
I see.. very useul information there ruan, top man... i'll get reading and looking into some stats