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hdi on veg - mich.76 - 04-09-2014
can you run a hdi on veg oil
RE: hdi on veg - Danny2009 - 04-09-2014
No
To put it simply
RE: hdi on veg - Ican - 04-09-2014
How about Bio and at what ratio if possible?
RE: hdi on veg - WiNgNuTz - 04-09-2014
Not worth the risk tbh, if you wanna run veg, get an xud with a bosch. Simples.
RE: hdi on veg - j77hrn - 04-09-2014
I'm guessing they won't run on heating oil will they?
RE: hdi on veg - THE_Liam - 05-09-2014
(04-09-2014, 10:03 PM)j77hrn Wrote: I'm guessing they won't run on heating oil will they?
Doesn't matter whether they would or wouldn't, that's massively illegal. As said, just get an XUD with a Bosch pump if you want to run on veg oil.
RE: hdi on veg - j77hrn - 05-09-2014
Yeah I know it is, it was just there's an old hdi and I was going to use it to run back and forth to road as it's all private gravel tracks!
RE: hdi on veg - Midnightclub - 05-09-2014
If it's all private roads, why not just run it on red diesel? Not illegal surely if it isn't on the public highway?
RE: hdi on veg - j77hrn - 05-09-2014
Aye I could do it's just that I've got a tank of heating oil and I've not got red diesel!
RE: hdi on veg - PartyJas - 05-09-2014
I may get corrected on this but i'm pretty sure heating oil is a higher viscosity than diesel so it would probably wreck a HDi much the same as veg oil would.
RE: hdi on veg - Poodle - 05-09-2014
I really must get around to writing that hdi faq...
For anyone who hasn't got the idea yet: anything other than normal diesel tends to wreck hdi fuel systems.
RE: hdi on veg - THE_Liam - 05-09-2014
Heating oil is nasty stuff - it'll kill the pump with lack of lubrication. Gravel tracks, of course
RE: hdi on veg - j77hrn - 05-09-2014
Honestly there are gravel tracks from my front door all the way to work! They are good fun when the estate manager is away and the handbrake comes out to play! The head gardener has a mark 2 escort rally car which sometimes gets a run along them too!
RE: hdi on veg - PartyJas - 05-09-2014
Sounds like you need to sell the HDi and get yourself a D tub with a Bosch Pump as said elsewhere in this thread.
RE: hdi on veg - THE_Liam - 05-09-2014
Never use it on the road then?
RE: hdi on veg - mich.76 - 05-09-2014
I have a xud in my 205 but it has the lucas pump runs very lumpy on veg As for the bio it all depends whos made it and how good it is that can be very bad for wrecking motors
The heating oil or kerosene is a strange one taking out the legal bits and bobs and just looking on the oil as a fuel or not ive heard it has no lubrication so it ruins bearings ect in the pump also it has no cleaning agent so it will soon sooty up the injectors also because the way it is stored in tanks outside has a high water content because of condensation but in america they run there wagons on it and put a additive into the mix
but now the legal boring bit dont run on it in the uk its illegal no matter what you add to it
RE: hdi on veg - j77hrn - 05-09-2014
Yeah or I was thinking about keeping the hdi and getting a wee 106 diesel too! I've completely hijacked this thread....sorry!
I use my current car on the road but there's an old hdi with no mot or anything at one of the farms that I was thinking about using for work!
hdi on veg - Razorback_Rob - 07-09-2014
Put simply.
Can you?: yes it will run but don't expect it to last long
The real question is "should you?" Definitely not.
RE: hdi on veg - j77hrn - 07-09-2014
What about adding some additives?
hdi on veg - Razorback_Rob - 07-09-2014
(07-09-2014, 08:37 PM)j77hrn Wrote: What about adding some additives?
There's 2 issues on not running diesel and running veg or other fuels. Lubrication and viscosity. Adding additives will probably start seeing nowhere near enough of a saving to make it worth the time. I'd just use red if it's staying off road or bite the bullet and use white diesel. All in all hdi engines are picky b***ards and running anything but will be nothing but trouble. Even running cheap nasty morrisons diesel (think it's partly bio and shit additives) causes trouble. I don't see an alternative mate common rail/high pressure diesels are designed to run at parameters of standard diesel and weren't made with any kind of leeway. I've even heard someone say they had trouble using red in an hdi I don't see why that would happen but in the end they rely on the user/driver to input the expected fuel to run. Anything else it's just plain not designed for. Pickup some mot failure xud if you want to run on veg off-road is the best solution or use diesel on the hdi.