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Can't find it grind it? - Will - 01-09-2014
2l HDi and it grinds in 3rd gear (have been skipping 3rd to protect the poor little gearbox) The grind isn't as bad at low revs so I'm pretty sure it's the third gear synchro ring. can someone tell me is the gearbox out an easy enough job that can be done from jacks and axles stands or is it a up on the lift job?
Can't find it grind it? - Jtrigga - 01-09-2014
You can do it easy enough on stands, I changed my clutch last week and its not too bad to do. The best way is to have a piece of wood across the engine bay with rope tied around that and the gearbox so when you take off the box it doesn't try to kill you. Then putting the box on is a lot easier with help from someone.
RE: Can't find it grind it? - Eeyore - 01-09-2014
yes as the post above. I had a metal bar across the engine bay and tied the box onto that to support it. Its a lot easier with two people to put the box on as it has to be stupidly straight to go back on. Make sure that the clutch fork is in the right place too when you get it on... otherwise youre just wasting your time.
RE: Can't find it grind it? - Toms306 - 01-09-2014
Its a HDi, no arsing about with the pull type arm lol! As has been said though, doable on stands, done several myself now.
As for the 3rd gear crunch, most are just as bad now so if you're replacing it with used might as well just keep what you've got...
RE: Can't find it grind it? - Will - 01-09-2014
Well that's a relief, got a ridiculous quote of €380 to have the 3rd gear synchro done or a whopping 600 for a recon gearbox! So I've decided I'm going to pick up a second hand box ~40 quid and replace the synchro ring myself.
RE: Can't find it grind it? - ADV_93 - 01-09-2014
granny shifting not double clutching like you should
RE: Can't find it grind it? - Will - 01-09-2014
Previous owner did the 3rd gear synchro in,s there's nothing wrong with my shifting
RE: Can't find it grind it? - Toms306 - 02-09-2014
(01-09-2014, 09:50 PM)Will Wrote: Well that's a relief, got a ridiculous quote of €380 to have the 3rd gear synchro done or a whopping 600 for a recon gearbox! So I've decided I'm going to pick up a second hand box ~40 quid and replace the synchro ring myself.
Not sure what experience you have, but reconditioning a gearbox isn't exactly easy, I've a fair amount of experience with these and wouldn't hesitate to swap over a gearbox but there's no way I'd attempt a rebuild!
RE: Can't find it grind it? - Jonny81191 - 02-09-2014
(01-09-2014, 10:55 PM)ADV_93 Wrote: granny shifting not double clutching like you should
I hope you're joking
RE: Can't find it grind it? - Ruan - 02-09-2014
(01-09-2014, 10:55 PM)ADV_93 Wrote: granny shifting not double clutching like you should
You're lucky that hundred shot of NOS didn't blow the welds on the intake!
RE: Can't find it grind it? - mr_fish - 02-09-2014
(02-09-2014, 10:05 AM)Ruan Wrote:(01-09-2014, 10:55 PM)ADV_93 Wrote: granny shifting not double clutching like you should
You're lucky that hundred shot of NOS didn't blow the welds on the intake!
Now me and the mad scientist got to rip apart the block... and replace the piston rings you fried.
RE: Can't find it grind it? - Will - 03-09-2014
(02-09-2014, 08:25 AM)Toms306 Wrote:(01-09-2014, 09:50 PM)Will Wrote: Well that's a relief, got a ridiculous quote of €380 to have the 3rd gear synchro done or a whopping 600 for a recon gearbox! So I've decided I'm going to pick up a second hand box ~40 quid and replace the synchro ring myself.
Not sure what experience you have, but reconditioning a gearbox isn't exactly easy, I've a fair amount of experience with these and wouldn't hesitate to swap over a gearbox but there's no way I'd attempt a rebuild!
I don't have a lot of experience rebuilding gearboxes, part of the reason I'd like to try, seen as the one in it is not good (I plan to swap out a different one for the moment). I do understand how they work pretty well, like the mechanical end and my dad is willing to help me (surely two engineers can figure it out
). I know it will be tough, but I'm going to give it a go
RE: Can't find it grind it? - Poodle - 04-09-2014
Do it mate, make sure you take lots of pictures and make a guide while you're there!
RE: Can't find it grind it? - Paul_13 - 04-09-2014
Please do.
I've never messed around with gearboxes
RE: Can't find it grind it? - bashbarnard - 04-09-2014
As long as you.have a press and a.few.good pullers you will be fine. Had to do a couple when I worked for pug. Take your time and take pictures. If im honest its not my favourd job.
RE: Can't find it grind it? - Will - 04-09-2014
I'll make sure to take plenty of pictures when I do it, hopefully I'll get to it soon but there's a few things holding me up at the moment
RE: Can't find it grind it? - Toms306 - 04-09-2014
If you want a laugh, I tried stripping the knackered gearbox from my 1.4 back when I was young and inexperienced...I do appear to come across as a tw*t in that thread though, so I guess some things never change.
http://www.theywhoshallnotbenamed/forum/threads/106745-Why-can-I-still-not-separate-this-bloody-gearbox
RE: Can't find it grind it? - Daniel306 - 04-09-2014
Just put the 2nd hand box on, chances are it will be fine.
This guide is for a 205 1.9 box but it will be near enough
http://www.rallyparts.co.uk/cwp_change/
RE: Can't find it grind it? - Will - 04-09-2014
Haha, just read the whole thing, entertaining thread! I've no worries of mine thrown out anyway :-P
(04-09-2014, 08:59 PM)Daniel306 Wrote: Just put the 2nd hand box on, chances are it will be fine.
This guide is for a 205 1.9 box but it will be near enough
http://www.rallyparts.co.uk/cwp_change/
That was the plan, but I've no proof the second hand one will be good. cheers for the link, it should come in handy!